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downeaster 02-05-2015 02:19 PM

Gates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1006820)
I know this is wandering off the topic of roundabouts, but it's an interesting point, since The Villages really isn't a gated community at all.
The Gates do give some type of psychological security, but is it really worth the price.
Many of us were unaware when we purchased that the gates are there for traffic control.
The streets are owned by the County; they are public property. As Bonanza said, anyone can enter.

Barefoot posted the above on another thread and I thought it an interesting subject and maybe worth a thread of its own.
First some history.
When the gates were first installed there was no provision for entrance without a card or pressing a button to connect to someone who could open it remotely. Gate cards were given out to lawn people, contractors etc. Every Tom, Dick and Harry had one. Then the county stepped in and said they were public roads and should open to the public. A compromise was reached and the county allowed the gates with a provision they could be opened by anyone. (The red button)
They have become vital to traffic control especially in regard to golf carts. However, the nuisance factor could be relieved by having them open the same way the exit gates open. No card and less frequent window motor replacements. I would think adjustments could be made to require a vehicle to come to a complete stop before the gate would open. I am considering taking this to the next level but thought I might get some input here first.
Good idea? Bad idea? Got a better idea? Let sleeping dogs lie?

AriaGrandparents2013 02-05-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 1007111)
Barefoot posted the above on another thread and I thought it an interesting subject and maybe worth a thread of its own.
First some history.
When the gates were first installed there was no provision for entrance without a card or pressing a button to connect to someone who could open it remotely. Gate cards were given out to lawn people, contractors etc. Every Tom, Dick and Harry had one. Then the county stepped in and said they were public roads and should open to the public. A compromise was reached and the county allowed the gates with a provision they could be opened by anyone. (The red button)
They have become vital to traffic control especially in regard to golf carts. However, the nuisance factor could be relieved by having them open the same way the exit gates open. No card and less frequent window motor replacements. I would think adjustments could be made to require a vehicle to come to a complete stop before the gate would open. I am considering taking this to the next level but thought I might get some input here first.
Good idea? Bad idea? Got a better idea? Let sleeping dogs lie?

My thoughts are "Let sleeping dogs lie".........I like the false sense of security of a gate even with the ability for anyone to open them.

Challenger 02-05-2015 02:36 PM

IMHO the system serves several good purposes. No need to fiddle with it.

Unintended consequences.

Bogie Shooter 02-05-2015 02:43 PM

I guess you could assume that this topic has been discussed before. Reading these threads should give you the information you are seeking.

http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...amaged-135648/
http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...policy-126090/
http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...peners-125865/
http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...-entry-120141/
http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...-gates-112114/
http://www.talkofthevillages.com/for...t-gate-111755/

MikeV 02-05-2015 02:44 PM

The only change I would like is to have a gate card that could be kept inside the car with no need to open a window and put your arm out. If the Turnpike can detect a Sun Pass at 25 MPH then I think a gate system could detect a gate card at 5 feet.

downeaster 02-05-2015 03:11 PM

I am aware of the numerous threads relative to gates but they cover many aspects. My intention was to keep focused on entrance gates opening in a manner similar to exit gates. This maintains the safety aspect without the need of a gate card.

raynan 02-05-2015 03:26 PM

I like the gates because it does slow people down especially before a roundabout and as a caution for golf carts entering the cross. However, I also would prefer something that could be read without opening the windows especially in the rain.

Susan G 02-05-2015 03:27 PM

Best Idea Yet...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 1007132)
The only change I would like is to have a gate card that could be kept inside the car with no need to open a window and put your arm out. If the Turnpike can detect a Sun Pass at 25 MPH then I think a gate system could detect a gate card at 5 feet.

This is the best idea yet! I hate the constant wear & tear on my electric window motor. They were not made for that much use I am sure, not to mention I dislike getting the inside of my vehicle wet when it is STORMING.

Another option would be the auto open gate like they use when a new Village is in "construction mode." It stops traffic long enough to get a visual on the vehicle license plates and also gives golf carts time to cross.

Clearly there has got to be a better way...

Barefoot 02-05-2015 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 1007152)
My intention was to keep focused on entrance gates opening in a manner similar to exit gates. This maintains the safety aspect without the need of a gate card.

I like that idea. Keep the gates for traffic control, without the need for cards.


BobnBev 02-05-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1007166)
I like that idea. Keep the gates for traffic control, without the need for cards.


I'll 2nd that.....you've got my vote.

TVMayor 02-05-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 1007132)
The only change I would like is to have a gate card that could be kept inside the car with no need to open a window and put your arm out. If the Turnpike can detect a Sun Pass at 25 MPH then I think a gate system could detect a gate card at 5 feet.

YES
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buzzy 02-05-2015 04:04 PM

Without cards, I think the incidence of broken gates and damaged vehicles would go up considerably. And, the carts would be backed up waiting for a break in the bumper to bumper line of cars.

rubicon 02-05-2015 04:13 PM

Some people have too much time on their hands

pbkmaine 02-05-2015 04:23 PM

My card works at the Santiago gate without rolling the window down. Nice on a rainy day.

DougB 02-05-2015 04:24 PM

What's the difference what anyone thinks about the gates? It is what it is.


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