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2BNTV 03-10-2015 05:58 PM

Saving Chairs Response
 
I thought I share this response with everyone as it is one of the hot button issues in TV.

Thank you taking the time to inquire about chairs and offer suggestions. This is an issue that is very difficult to control during our busiest months and during special events. Some of our regular guests elect to bring their own chairs during this time to ensure a comfortable and more enjoyable experience.

We ask and announce that people not save chairs or if they are saving for a friend and themselves to remain with the chairs. I have no way to enforce it or to know who might be shopping, on the dance floor or perhaps in the restroom.

We do remove some of the ropes and taping if it's early in the day and no one is present. Oddly enough as soon as we remove the ropes and walk around the square the chairs are retied within a short period of time.

We will continue to make service announcements prior to the start of the evenings' performance and during the bands breaks. In addition I will try to add a notation to my daily Ad in hopes that public awareness will help.

If you have any additional comments or suggestions please feel free to email me directly.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Barbara A. Vesco
Director
Villages Entertainment & Special Events
1070 Canal Street
The Villages, Fl. 32162
Office (352) 750-5411
Cell (352) 267-8354

The Shadow 03-10-2015 06:54 PM

The announcement will not work if the people that save the seats are not in the seats. The questions remains why are the rules not enforced.

We do remove some of the ropes and taping if it's early in the day and no one is present. Oddly enough as soon as we remove the ropes and walk around the square the chairs are retied within a short period of time.


If Barbara A. Vesco canít deal with this she not qualified for the job.

sunnyatlast 03-10-2015 07:03 PM

She seems to assume that brazen bullies actually pay attention to rules and announcements from "mere" management like her and the staff. Such brazen people have no respect for others, period!

Nobody has explained yet why it is that 20 grown adults just have to sit all together with their select circle of little 5th grade friends. It's really immature behavior.

So treat them like kids at recess time, and make them line up and be handed a chair as they walk in, and 1 person can have no more than a 2nd chair to hold for their spouse/friend.

rubicon 03-10-2015 07:15 PM

It is my experience and my opinion after living here for almost 9 years that The Villages will do nothing to confront residents/guests To: wit the ambassadors on golf courses. So residents can create demand til the cows come home but TV leadership will continue to play.. "welcome to The Villages, the Friendliest...... that includes the Developer, the Districts, the Daily Sun, the VHA, the POA.

theorem painter 03-10-2015 07:29 PM

When we went to the Xmas Tree Lighting at Lake Sumter the front row of chairs was roped off. We asked Security if we could remove the ropes and sit there. He said yes but if there is a confrontation we will not help you. Kind of made me wonder what kind of security they provide. In any event, when we removed the ropes everyone behind us clapped! When the 10 people showed up, no confrontation, but you could tell they were angry.

graciegirl 03-10-2015 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1026502)
When we went to the Xmas Tree Lighting at Lake Sumter the front row of chairs was roped off. We asked Security if we could remove the ropes and sit there. He said yes but if there is a confrontation we will not help you. Kind of made me wonder what kind of security they provide. In any event, when we removed the ropes everyone behind us clapped! When the 10 people showed up, no confrontation, but you could tell they were angry.


Sally. Who was security? I didn't think we had security at the squares? They have staff from the recreation committee.

How can the sheriff's office who is our law enforcement be made to enforce local behavior rules? That is my point. Not that I don't agree that it is nasty to save seats and people should stop, but how is that going to happen???

wudda1955 03-10-2015 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1026417)
I thought I share this response with everyone as it is one of the hot button issues in TV.

Thank you taking the time to inquire about chairs and offer suggestions. This is an issue that is very difficult to control during our busiest months and during special events. Some of our regular guests elect to bring their own chairs during this time to ensure a comfortable and more enjoyable experience.

We ask and announce that people not save chairs or if they are saving for a friend and themselves to remain with the chairs. I have no way to enforce it or to know who might be shopping, on the dance floor or perhaps in the restroom.

We do remove some of the ropes and taping if it's early in the day and no one is present. Oddly enough as soon as we remove the ropes and walk around the square the chairs are retied within a short period of time.

We will continue to make service announcements prior to the start of the evenings' performance and during the bands breaks. In addition I will try to add a notation to my daily Ad in hopes that public awareness will help.

If you have any additional comments or suggestions please feel free to email me directly.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Barbara A. Vesco
Director
Villages Entertainment & Special Events
1070 Canal Street
The Villages, Fl. 32162
Office (352) 750-5411
Cell (352) 267-8354

Thanks for sharing, but it only proves that the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing! We go to the square(s) quite often, and have NEVER heard a public service announcement regarding the saving of chairs. Smoking, yes. Reserving seats--never. I think Ms. Vesco needs to pay a visit to a square so that she knows what the announcement really is.

graciegirl 03-10-2015 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wudda1955 (Post 1026537)
Thanks for sharing, but it only proves that the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing! We go to the square(s) quite often, and have NEVER heard a public service announcement regarding the saving of chairs. Smoking, yes. Reserving seats--never. I think Ms. Vesco needs to pay a visit to a square so that she knows what the announcement really is.

You are right.

I think we should email her directly. A bloomin' bunch of us. Who has her email address?????

theorem painter 03-10-2015 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1026521)
Sally. Who was security? I didn't think we had security at the squares? They have staff from the recreation committee.

How can the sheriff's office who is our law enforcement be made to enforce local behavior rules? That is my point. Not that I don't agree that it is nasty to save seats and people should stop, but how is that going to happen???

Gracie,
They probably were staff from the rec committee but they all had jackets that said "Security" on the back. The bottom line is that if the people who make the rules won't enforce it and the sheriff's department can't enforce it, the discussion is moot. We all hate it but the situation isn't going to change.

otherbruddaDarrell 03-10-2015 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1026476)
She seems to assume that brazen bullies actually pay attention to rules and announcements from "mere" management like her and the staff. Such brazen people have no respect for others, period!

Nobody has explained yet why it is that 20 grown adults just have to sit all together with their select circle of little 5th grade friends. It's really immature behavior.

So treat them like kids at recess time, and make them line up and be handed a chair as they walk in, and 1 person can have no more than a 2nd chair to hold for their spouse/friend.

Better yet.......paint numbers on the chairs and issue them out with a $2 deposit and write the name of the person and chair number assigned to them. When they return the chair with the proper name they get $1 back.
The other dollar would cover the extra cost of the person issuing the chairs.

graciegirl 03-10-2015 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1026543)
Gracie,
They probably were staff from the rec committee but they all had jackets that said "Security" on the back. The bottom line is that if the people who make the rules won't enforce it and the sheriff's department can't enforce it, the discussion is moot. We all hate it but the situation isn't going to change.

See how little I go to the squares? I didn't know that anyone had security on their jacket.

I don't like chair saving. I am not up on what goes on there. I have no dog in this fight.

I am feeling very old and stupid right now.

Madelaine Amee 03-10-2015 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BNTV (Post 1026417)
I thought I share this response with everyone as it is one of the hot button issues in TV.

Thank you taking the time to inquire about chairs and offer suggestions. This is an issue that is very difficult to control during our busiest months and during special events. Some of our regular guests elect to bring their own chairs during this time to ensure a comfortable and more enjoyable experience.

We ask and announce that people not save chairs or if they are saving for a friend and themselves to remain with the chairs. I have no way to enforce it or to know who might be shopping, on the dance floor or perhaps in the restroom.

We do remove some of the ropes and taping if it's early in the day and no one is present. Oddly enough as soon as we remove the ropes and walk around the square the chairs are retied within a short period of time.

We will continue to make service announcements prior to the start of the evenings' performance and during the bands breaks. In addition I will try to add a notation to my daily Ad in hopes that public awareness will help.

If you have any additional comments or suggestions please feel free to email me directly.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Barbara A. Vesco
Director
Villages Entertainment & Special Events
1070 Canal Street
The Villages, Fl. 32162
Office (352) 750-5411
Cell (352) 267-8354

2BNTV: I may be wrong, but it does not seem that anyone has thanked YOU for taking the time to try to rectify the seating situation. So, thank you for what you did and I'm sorry you got little help from TV!

Villageswimmer 03-10-2015 09:04 PM

If you think that's bad, we do go to the squares, and I've never seen those jackets! I must really be oblivious.

Grandfinch 03-10-2015 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naneiben (Post 1026573)
If you think that's bad, we do go to the squares, and I've never seen those jackets! I must really be oblivious.

We only go to or by the squares between dinner and our car/cart but have never seen security nor a need for it.
My take on this is that all the chairs provided by the Villages are Villages property for use by anyone attending an event at the squares. One butt one chair. END OF DISCUSSION.

CWGUY 03-10-2015 09:27 PM

Mistaken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1026543)
Gracie,
They probably were staff from the rec committee but they all had jackets that said "Security" on the back. The bottom line is that if the people who make the rules won't enforce it and the sheriff's department can't enforce it, the discussion is moot. We all hate it but the situation isn't going to change.

:ohdear: You can keep saying it..... but I think what you saw was -

"SPECIAL EVENTS" on the backs of the jackets. Special Events is a part of the Rec. Dept.


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