Why is Obama pursuing an agreement with Iran?
It is stated in the religion of those in Iran to not have or honoe agreements with infidels (that's us) as they are inferior. And if there is an agreement they feel no obligation to honor it.
Plus the fact they are involved in one way or another with most of the terrorism in the area and around the world. They are sworn to kill infidels (that would be us again). In the face of the experts who state there is more to fear from Iran than there is from ISIS. Is his diretion to Kerry like it was to Pelosi when she was whipping the team to get the ACA passed....he said to get something approved by (whatever date). Something? Why is Obama pursuing this course? To add to his legacy which only he has an eye toward. |
Since the man is a proven liar and 100% not transparent in his dealings...who knows.
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How about to prevent all out nuclear war with Iran?
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Obama is aiding and abetting his muslim brothers so that they can speed up the overtake of this country. Plain and simple!!
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Along with the gang of six
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That would be the villages tea party. They are too radical for the tri county tea party.
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There is definitely a group of posters that would be considered a one trick pony. Attack Obama in the most insulting and name calling way. It's a schoolyard mentality that denotes a low skill level in communication. In truth, I almost enjoy the lambasters for their inane comments. It's kind of like this guy...
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Why don't you summarize the case for Obama's "deal" with Iran in crisp terms, and further explain why you are ok with Iran getting a nuke in ten years or less. |
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This sounds eerily similar to the lead up to the Iraq war based on lies about weapons of mass destruction that would destroy the US. Over a decade later, trillions of dollars in debt, hundreds of thousands killed, Saddam Hussein is gone replaced by ISIS. If that was the mission, you could say 'mission accomplished'. Remember John McCain's little ditty during the 2008 campaign...bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Thank goodness he lost the election. |
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"Wouldn't you agree that Obama’s deal with Iran would lead to a nuclear Iran?" .............................. "Based on your input I have a solution you may like." That's how you sell it. |
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For several years after the surge Iraq was relatively peaceful. Then, in 2011 and against the advice of his generals, Obama pulled out all US troops. He did this for political purposes. He created a power vacuum and ISIS filled it. In the world of high strategy where I used to work, we had an elegant term for leaders who made bad decisions like that ... to wit, we identied them as "dumbass" Let me say it another way so that its unambigous for you -- there was no ISIS until Obama's incompetence enabled it to come into being. Do you understand that at all? Would you like to argue it? In sum Barack Obama is, metaphorically speaking, the Father of ISIS |
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Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya... all of these nations are participating in armed conflict, with some taking the job of killing more seriously than others. Combined, there are many hundreds of thousands of young Islamic fighters pushing up the daisies. From a human carnage standpoint, it's a tragedy, but I'm not personally shedding any tears. A few more years of this and the herd of religious nut jobs should really be thinned out. Let's not forget the deteriorating economies of many of these countries and the added benefit of lower oil prices as they open the spigots to get more money to buy more US-made weapons. (It's just a variation on the "cycle of life".) Of course when nukes come along, this multi-year affair can all be handled in a few minutes. :loco: |
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Congrats. you have posted the most inaccurate false and biased brief summary of Iraq I have ever read. Please post for me your data on the peaceful number of Sunni/Shia deaths after the surge, on the behavior of the Malaki administration, on the position of the Kurds, and on the frequency of car bombs, human bombs, mosque bombs, during that peaceful period. And compare please to the number of similar events say in 2001 or 2002 before Bush/Chaney decided to liberate Iraq at nearly no cost to the citizens of this country. And you think Obama destabilized the region by fulfilling a campaign promise to get us out of that quagmire. |
Why has there been NO attempt by the Obama supporters to state why what he is doing negotiationg with Iran is OK?
I have yet to EVER have a direct question be answered. Change the subject yes...most of the time. Attack what was being asked...much of the time. Turn the question around to sound not even remotely like waht was asked...SOP. :sigh: |
On Sept. 7, 2002, [Judith Miller] and fellow New York Times reporter Michael Gordon reported that Iraq had "stepped up its quest for nuclear weapons and has embarked on a worldwide hunt for materials to make an atomic bomb." As proof, she cited unnamed "American intelligence experts" and unnamed "Bush administration officials." Subsequently, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, and Donald Rumsfeld all pointed to Miller’s story as justification for war. On April 22, 2003, she told PBS’s Newshour that WMD had already been found in Iraq: "Well, I think they found something more than a ’smoking gun.’"
---Think Progress "Saddam Hussein's baby powder program- related activities must be stopped!" "Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof---the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud." ---George W. Bush (10/7/02) "We’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies." "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." ---John McCain (9/29/02 and 1/22/03) "My colleagues, every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence." ---Colin Powell, United Nations Speech (2/5/03) "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." ... "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." ---Dick Cheney (8/28/02) and (3/16/03) George W. Bush "Those WMDs must be around here somewhere. HehHehHeh..." "[T]he area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." ---Donald Rumsfeld (3/30/03) "Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like [Tom] Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing." ---Joe Scarborough (4/10/03) The cafeteria menus in the three House office buildings changed the name of "french fries" to "freedom fries," in a culinary rebuke of France stemming from anger over the country's refusal to support the U.S. position on Iraq.' ---CNN (3/12/03) Ted Koppel: [Y]ou’re not suggesting that the rebuilding of Iraq is going to be done for $1.7 billion? Andrew Natsios [Agency for International Development]: Well, in terms of the American taxpayer's contribution, I do. This is it for the U.S. ---Nightline (4/23/03) |
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What was asked for was: why is it OK with you that Obama is negotiating with the world's largest terrorist organization, Iran? Try to respond for once without derogatory name calling. It belittles and discredits others in your party. |
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This is literally suicidal to the U.S. and our kids/grandkids. One would think that would be enough to not support Obama in at least this one instance. But sadly the Obamabots support him no matter what This deranged thinking by liberal lefties is akin to a modern day Jonestown cult |
Manifest Incompetence
Dear Guests: The old saw,that the past is prologue to the future applies twofold here. First Iran has since the early the ouster of the Shah of Iran been an enemy of America and has always hated Israel. There has been nothing since this event that has altered their perspective and attitudes, in fact that have only become more radical and more involved in the disruption in the middle east. Second Obama's profile since before taking oath has been one of deception incompetence, indecision, arrogance and childish behavior. He has a habit that once he through with using you for his gain he throws under the bus. He holds his opponents to THEIR demands. He traded Bergdahl for five of the most dangerous terrorist in the world and called it a great thing to do by leaving no man behind. Except this guy went AWOL/deserted to the enemy. The five terrorist are now reported back in Afghanistan and Bergdahl went AWOL again as no one can find him. and we still haven't learned what the military investigation determined was his status when 4 soldiers died to hunt for his return This is just plain manifest incompetence and anyone defending Obama and his gang of thugs is either complicit by acceptance or just not capable of understanding the implications of Obama's actions |
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Such venom toward your President! If you do not like his policies, programs, or results - just don't vote for Obama again. :rant-rave:
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Honestly, don't you see the longer term danger to all of us from a nuclear armed Iran?? As but one example, are you aware the Iranian military has long written about an EMP attack on America? Are you really either oblivious towards, or unconcerned by nuclear jihad?? Please ... forego the sniping and try to respond in this instance to the substance |
Pres. Obama is looking for a non violent way to stop Iran from making a nuclear weapon. I support him in doing that.
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Obama's deal allows Iran to have nukes in ten years, or sooner if they cheat (which they will) So, the question for you is, are you ok with Iran getting nukes?? |
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Nobody wants Iran getting nukes, but what other options are there besides negotiations and inspections? There are several other countries involved in these negotiations, not just the US. Nobody knows what the final 'deal' will be, since there is no deal at this time. |
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