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Guest 04-20-2015 11:00 AM

It's just another dead black guy, thanks officer
 
Is there are reason to keep posting these stories? Black guy walking down the street, 2 white cops see him and he sees the cops. He runs which automatically means he needs to be arrested even though I am not aware that running has been criminalized. He is arrested and soon is dead. Nothing to see here. The lesson is don't run from cops because they are your friends and only have your best interest at heart.

What happened to Freddie Gray in Baltimore? - CSMonitor.com

Guest 04-20-2015 11:53 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1048375)
Is there are reason to keep posting these stories? Black guy walking down the street, 2 white cops see him and he sees the cops. He runs which automatically means he needs to be arrested even though I am not aware that running has been criminalized. He is arrested and soon is dead. Nothing to see here. The lesson is don't run from cops because they are your friends and only have your best interest at heart.

What happened to Freddie Gray in Baltimore? - CSMonitor.com

What else needs to be said?

Guest 04-20-2015 12:30 PM

I think that we should arrange for special elections in all minority neighborhoods where people believe this type of police action is the norm, and ask the question if they want police protection or not? I think it would produce some unexpected results, the sentiment of the OP notwithstanding.

Guest 04-20-2015 12:51 PM

I don't accept the premise that too many are preaching and that being blacks are being profiled/picked on or what ever.

One would have to compare all the similar encounters regardless race of the cops or the perps.

This selective choosing of which cases to high profile to make a point is a racist tactic and nothing more.

As has been said time and time again. Just check the statictics...who commits the crimes against who/whom....who is jailed....who kills who/whom the most/least.

Are there a lot of blacks in prison because of prejudice? Of course not.

The subject is being worn out. Adds no value.

When the isolated cases are all there is to talk about it does not represent the norm....it matters not what race,, religion or political bent.

Guest 04-20-2015 05:21 PM

I think some on this forum would characterize these unwarranted shootings as collateral damage and the price of war. Unfortunate, isn't it? The problem is some of these bad cops are not being held accountable.

Guest 04-20-2015 06:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1048617)
I think some on this forum would characterize these unwarranted shootings as collateral damage and the price of war. Unfortunate, isn't it? The problem is some of these bad cops are not being held accountable.

That's also true ... ie I agree with your point for a change.

Guest 04-20-2015 06:51 PM

The only bad cops are the ones where the cop was white and the victim black.

Guest 04-22-2015 04:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1048617)
I think some on this forum would characterize these unwarranted shootings as collateral damage and the price of war. Unfortunate, isn't it? The problem is some of these bad cops are not being held accountable.

Very well stated. We used to do what we called RCFA (root cause failure analysis) when I was in manufacturing. It is very useful in all areas when you have a failure of some type and need to understand why so it doesn't happen again. It makes you really dig for causes. Without jumping to conclusions I'd have to guess that black crime and high emotional levels of police officers might show up on flip chart. If you listen to CNN cops are racist thugs which is not the case.

Guest 04-22-2015 05:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1049655)
Very well stated. We used to do what we called RCFA (root cause failure analysis) when I was in manufacturing. It is very useful in all areas when you have a failure of some type and need to understand why so it doesn't happen again. It makes you really dig for causes. Without jumping to conclusions I'd have to guess that black crime and high emotional levels of police officers might show up on flip chart. If you listen to CNN cops are racist thugs which is not the case.

Excellent points and insight ... particularly about RCFA ... thanks for posting.

Guest 04-22-2015 07:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1048655)
The only bad cops are the ones where the cop was white and the victim black.

I am 100% certain that the left wing cop hating websites were all over this recent case:

Alabama police officer arrested after Indian grandfather left partially paralyzed - The Washington Post

and this case
White man beaten by police receives $650,000 settlement two weeks after incident

and many more.

Guest 04-23-2015 06:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1049746)

I did not see the grandfather story but did watch that bunch of cops kick and beat that guy after he layed down spread eagle after falling off horse. I'm not a lawyer and could have got that guy more than that. Stupid police work, if they didn't get fired they have a damn good union.

Guest 04-23-2015 08:43 PM

And while we are on the topic of police unions. Today the Police Union for Baltimore, you know the one representing the cops who severed the spinal cord of topic of this thread. The leader of that union today expressed his opinion that the peaceful protesters of this police execution, the peaceful protesters who are calling for justice, those protesters are acting like a lynch mob. A LYNCH MOB. Could a stupider word have been used. It was black men who got lynched without trials or due process, not cops, To accuse a predominantly black and totally peaceful group of citizens calling for due process of acting like a bunch of white racist killers. Freud would certainly have understood the word choice of lynch mob and the feelings it bespoke.

Guest 04-24-2015 08:04 AM

I am not a fan of unions. I am not a fan of prejudice. I think it is wrong to categorize a whole group for the actions of a few.

But when it smells like manure, it probably is. There are way too many of the urban poor with no direction or bad direction.

And they need way too many police officers. Some of the police officers are rotten.
I think the police are heavily more good than the guys they have to chase.

When you can't see the obvious, you start shouting political correctness.

Guest 04-24-2015 08:11 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1050296)
And while we are on the topic of police unions. Today the Police Union for Baltimore, you know the one representing the cops who severed the spinal cord of topic of this thread. The leader of that union today expressed his opinion that the peaceful protesters of this police execution, the peaceful protesters who are calling for justice, those protesters are acting like a lynch mob. A LYNCH MOB. Could a stupider word have been used. It was black men who got lynched without trials or due process, not cops, To accuse a predominantly black and totally peaceful group of citizens calling for due process of acting like a bunch of white racist killers. Freud would certainly have understood the word choice of lynch mob and the feelings it bespoke.

Ok, you've convinced me. Let's remove all the police from all the minority crime ridden areas. That way, no more incidents.

Guest 04-24-2015 09:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1050423)
Ok, you've convinced me. Let's remove all the police from all the minority crime ridden areas. That way, no more incidents.

When given this statement as an option it is what we used to call the least attractive alternative scenario.

If there were two options:
> leave the police coverage as is
> "...remove all the police from all the minority crime ridden areas..."

I suspect those voting would not accept the latter.


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