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Villages PL 05-09-2015 01:51 PM

What will future generations say about surviving?
 
Remember heart bypass operations and stints as a treatment for coronary artery disease, when all that was needed was a few dietary changes?

Cancer?

Diabetes?

Arthritis?

The aches and pains of old age?

Knee replacement?

Dementia?

dbussone 05-09-2015 02:18 PM

Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.

Villages PL 05-09-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1057996)
Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.

When you say "heart disease" are you referring to coronary artery disease?

And when you say "many people" does that mean you also believe that many people can be cured?

Villages PL 05-09-2015 02:35 PM

Can You Reverse Heart Disease?

Scroll down to where it says, "Yes, You Can!"

graciegirl 05-09-2015 03:22 PM

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Do you have children VPL?

Polar Bear 05-09-2015 04:45 PM

What will future generations say about surviving?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1057990)
Remember heart bypass operations and stints as a treatment for coronary artery disease, when all that was needed was a few dietary changes?
Cancer?

Diabetes?

Arthritis?

The aches and pains of old age?

Knee replacement?

Dementia?

I'm not sure a healthy diet works for dementia.

dbussone 05-09-2015 07:40 PM

What will future generations say about surviving?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1058000)
When you say "heart disease" are you referring to coronary artery disease?

And when you say "many people" does that mean you also believe that many people can be cured?

If you can't respond to my question then don't bother with a response At all please.

Bonny 05-09-2015 07:47 PM

Oh my, here we go again. :ohdear: Just sayin'.

Average Guy 05-09-2015 09:09 PM

No, You Can't
 
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 1058005)
Can You Reverse Heart Disease?

Scroll down to where it says, "Yes, You Can!"

This is a direct quote from the article you sited above:

"I wouldn’t say you can ‘reverse’ heart disease, because that implies you had something and now you don’t," she says. "You can’t cure heart disease, but you can slow its progression.”

dbussone 05-09-2015 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Average Guy (Post 1058168)
This is a direct quote from the article you sited above:



"I wouldn’t say you can ‘reverse’ heart disease, because that implies you had something and now you don’t," she says. "You can’t cure heart disease, but you can slow its progression.”


Thanks for an objective perspective.

B767drvr 05-09-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1057996)
Your leading sentence is significantly in error. Dietary changes, for many people, will not cure/prevent heart disease. Please provide the scientific basis for this comment.

I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Prevent-Reverse-Heart-Disease-Nutrition-Based/dp/1583333002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431224230&sr=8-1&keywords=prevent+and+reverse+heart+disease]Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]<-------- click this link to the book

dbussone 05-10-2015 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1058174)
I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Prevent-Reverse-Heart-Disease-Nutrition-Based/dp/1583333002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431224230&sr=8-1&keywords=prevent+and+reverse+heart+disease]Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]<-------- click this link to the book

Thanks. I'll take a look.

TheVillageChicken 05-10-2015 08:56 AM

This is beginning to make sense to me. When I have my third Bloody Mary of the morning, I am going to skip the bacon....

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...aa&oe=55CC8E72

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-10-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 1058174)
I read this book (Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease) and found it informative. The author provides links to his own and other medical studies demonstrating that diet can prevent and reverse heart disease in even the most severely heart diseased patients. I'm sure you can google the links to these studies without reading the book. (I don't have them handy or I'd have included them.)


Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically Proven, Nutrition-Based Cure: Caldwell B. Esselstyn Jr.: 9781583333006: Amazon.com: Books<-------- click this link to the book

I read that book by Carl Esselstyn and another by his associate, Dean Ornish. I've also read several books by other cardiologists who prescribe almost the exact opposite diet. They also show numerous studies that support their claim that sugar is the cause of most heart problems and that starchy carbs turn into sugar very quickly. So who's to know what is right.

The problem with any of these diets is that they are very difficult to stick to. Dean Ornish has actually admitted that. Esselstyn is still says that it is easy to follow his program. personally, I don't agree. I tried it and it takes a lot of willpower and a lot of work to find foods that are OK to eat and to prepare them. People who are advocates of that diet will say that that's not true and they find it easy. So I guess some of us may find it difficult and some may not.

It's funny that the medical establishment still talks about low fat, low protein diets but whenever I visit my doctor and my triglyceride levels are high, the first thing he asks is, "Have you been eating a lot of candy or drinking soda?".
So they evidently know what is causing the problem but they really can't go against the AMA and the ridiculous food pyramid.

Bonny 05-10-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1058302)
This is beginning to make sense to me. When I have my third Bloody Mary of the morning, I am going to skip the bacon....

https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...aa&oe=55CC8E72

I'll have 2 please ! :loco:


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