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twoplanekid 07-07-2015 03:34 PM

Golf Cart racing
 
As we have more golf carts here than anywhere else on the planet, I am sure many would enjoy golf cart racing in The Villages. It is my understanding that law enforcement doesn’t have any authority on the multi-modal paths. And, The Village government doesn’t have any law enforcement authority at all. So, why don’t we have official racing on the paths? I believe that the suggested speed on the paths is 20 but it can’t be enforced. Racing might allow everyone to become better drivers. We will soon have striping to help us stay on the paths at higher speeds. Let’s go for it and fulfill our need for speed.

Watch the world's fastest golf cart drag race at 118 MPH - SBNation.com

twoplanekid 07-07-2015 03:36 PM

Or, should we encourage the Florida legislature to change the CDD rules to allow someone to have law enforcement authority on the multi-modal trails. This change could be added to the other suggested change to CDD statutes that would allow enforcement of parking rules on the side streets. Let’s go racing or not.

Please read III Enforcement on page 4 as presented on the districgov web site.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...Modal-Memo.pdf

Is this good self-regulation by default or is it about time for a needed change? Is my understanding of this situation accurate?

graciegirl 07-07-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083614)
Or, should we encourage the Florida legislature to change the CDD rules to allow someone to have law enforcement authority on the multi-modal trails. This change could be added to the other suggested change to CDD statutes that would allow enforcement of parking rules on the side streets. Let’s go racing or not.

Please read III Enforcement on page 4 as presented on the districgov web site.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...Modal-Memo.pdf

Is this good self-regulation by default or is it about time for a needed change? Is my understanding of this situation accurate?




I dunno, but it sounds like you are thinking a lot about the Villages while you are in Ohio. Right out of the gate you were really interested in getting the speed reduced on golf carts to 15MPH, if I remember correctly, and I think that is before your purchase of one. Correct me if I am wrong.

Being a traditionalist, I am interested in not having more government going on.

tomwed 07-07-2015 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083614)
Or, should we encourage the Florida legislature to change the CDD rules to allow someone to have law enforcement authority on the multi-modal trails. This change could be added to the other suggested change to CDD statutes that would allow enforcement of parking rules on the side streets. Let’s go racing or not.

Please read III Enforcement on page 4 as presented on the districgov web site.

http://www.districtgov.org/community...Modal-Memo.pdf

Is this good self-regulation by default or is it about time for a needed change? Is my understanding of this situation accurate?

Is it our understanding you don't live here?

twoplanekid 07-07-2015 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1083615)
I dunno, but it sounds like you are thinking a lot about the Villages while you are in Ohio. Right out of the gate you were really interested in getting the speed reduced on golf carts to 15MPH, if I remember correctly, and I think that is before your purchase of one. Correct me if I am wrong.

Being a traditionalist, I am interested in not having more government going on.

I do want to have a better understanding of how things operate in The Village for my return. I have never stated nor do I have a clue at this point in time about speed limits. I believe I did quote another person on her view of speed limits, not mine. Yes, I wish I could spend more time there. I own a new home there in Lake Deaton and my wife says we may live there full time! Not sure what this has to do with my questions?

Remember graciegirl, I don’t ask questions because they are easy, but because they are hard questions.

graciegirl 07-07-2015 04:08 PM

We are all concerned about golf cart safety, but not much can change that they are open vehicles.


This is the thread that I remember and I think there is something on this thread about an elected CDD woman voicing her interest in lowering the speed limit to 15.




https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...achine-145930/

Bogie Shooter 07-07-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083620)
I do want to have a better understanding of how things operate in The Village for my return. I have never stated nor do I have a clue at this point in time about speed limits. I believe I did quote another person on her view of speed limits, not mine. Yes, I wish I could spend more time there. I own a new home there in Lake Deaton and my wife says we may live there full time! Not sure what this has to do with my questions?

Remember graciegirl, I don’t ask questions because they are easy, but because they are hard questions.

I think this explains about everything.....................or is my thinking this way, due to it being 5:10PM.:beer3:

tomwed 07-07-2015 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083620)
I do want to have a better understanding of how things operate in The Village for my return. I have never stated nor do I have a clue at this point in time about speed limits. I believe I did quote another person on her view on speed limits, not mine. Yes, I wish I could spend more time there. I own a new home there and my wife says we may live there full time! Not sure what this has to do with my questions?

As an owner you have a vested interest in the community just like the rest of us. I misunderstood your intention. I'm sorry. Ordinarily I try to avoid these kinds of discussions but I feel like I owe you my thoughts on the subject.

I don't own a cart. I bike the multi-modules. I think the speed limit is 20 mph.

Yesterday I golfed with a friend who told me that his friend, an insurance investigator determines as soon as possible if a golf cart in an accident has been tampered with. I think he was referring to the speed settings. If it can move above 20 mph he said it makes a difference.

I think that would be enough information for a reasonable person not to drive a cart that can exceed 20 mph. I think the liability motivates more than a ticket, safety or ethics.

I may delete all of this. As I said..................

John_W 07-07-2015 04:16 PM

Here's something that is legal, already operating, and is only a 1/2 mile from Colony Plaza. America's oldest operating go-cart dirt track. Besides, does anyone want to forfeit their golf cart insurance while performing dangerous and high speed stunts?

Speedway Park | Fruitland Park Florida 34731

http://www.speedwaypark.biz/Speedway_Park.jpg

http://www.speedwaypark.biz/tn_FP_9-18___380_.JPG

twoplanekid 07-07-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1083627)
We are all concerned about golf cart safety, but not much can change that they are open vehicles.


This is the thread that I remember and I think there is something on this thread about an elected CDD woman voicing her interest in lowering the speed limit to 15.




https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...achine-145930/


Why they even bother to talk about such things as speed limits with enforcement not a possibility. Am I correct about my understanding of this situation?

Jima64 07-07-2015 04:25 PM

Time saved at higher speed?
 
Curious as to how much time on average would you save running a typical errand in a golf cart that had been tampered with compared to the stock cart most own? As I have gotten older I really don't worry about a couple of minutes here and there. To me, lowering speeds would only increase the amount of fines collected, just like in cars.

twoplanekid 07-07-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1083631)
Here's something that is legal, already operating, and is only a 1/2 mile from Colony Plaza. America's oldest operating go-cart dirt track. Besides, does anyone want to forfeit their golf cart insurance while performing dangerous and high speed stunts?

Speedway Park | Fruitland Park Florida 34731

http://www.speedwaypark.biz/Speedway_Park.jpg

http://www.speedwaypark.biz/tn_FP_9-18___380_.JPG

As I have flown fast aircraft in the past, my need for speed is over. As my friends know me as a kidder, I was not serious about racing on the paths. However, I don’t understand what legal rules keep me from speeding as there is currently no power of enforcement of any rules on the path as I understand it except for self- regulation. That may be enough. I am not sure others understand this situation from reading their suggestion on how to make the path safer.

Carl in Tampa 07-07-2015 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083612)
As we have more golf carts here than anywhere else on the planet, I am sure many would enjoy golf cart racing in The Villages. It is my understanding that law enforcement doesn’t have any authority on the multi-modal paths. And, The Village government doesn’t have any law enforcement authority at all. So, why don’t we have official racing on the paths? I believe that the suggested speed on the paths is 20 but it can’t be enforced. Racing might allow everyone to become better drivers. We will soon have striping to help us stay on the paths at higher speeds. Let’s go for it and fulfill our need for speed.

Watch the world's fastest golf cart drag race at 118 MPH - SBNation.com

One can only assume that the golf cart racing proposal is a joke, since it is so ridiculous on its' face. But, I am responding based upon your mistaken belief that "law enforcement doesn't have any authority on the multi-modal paths." This is incorrect. The legal brief that someone has already provided a link to simply says the police cannot enforce traffic control devices on the paths.

One quick example is that DUI laws which apply "anywhere in the state," not just on the public roads. Reckless Driving, Willful and Wanton, does not require violation of a speed limit to apply. You get the idea.

:police:

twoplanekid 07-07-2015 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1083639)
One can only assume that the golf cart racing proposal is a joke, since it is so ridiculous on its' face. But, I am responding based upon your mistaken belief that "law enforcement doesn't have any authority on the multi-modal paths." This is incorrect. The legal brief that someone has already provided a link to simply says the police cannot enforce traffic control devices on the paths.

One quick example is that DUI laws which apply "anywhere in the state," not just on the public roads. Reckless Driving, Willful and Wanton, does not require violation of a speed limit to apply. You get the idea.

:police:

You are correct on both points( the joke and DUI ) and I thank you very much. Many other rules may not be enforceable.

buzzy 07-07-2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1083632)
Why they even bother to talk about such things as speed limits with enforcement not a possibility. Am I correct about my understanding of this situation?

Hey, when you get here, can I help you to organize a pylon race around the water towers? No rule against that, yet.


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