POW'S AGAINST McCAIN!
 

Justa few clips you might find interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KjsEs46C70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazK...eature=related

Wonder what the October Suprise will be???

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http://bravenewfilms.org/about
Real open minded web site.

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Open minded? It's all on video? What's the difference? They didn't put words in McCain's mouth or anyone elses. ;)

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Give it a rest. As someone said on another thread it's the whole washington establishment that needs an overhaul. Contrived videos edited to suit the sender are meaningless regardless of the party affiliation. ;D

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The POW-MIA issue is one that really hits home with me. In 1992, to realistically expect that POWs were still there 20 years after the US troops left, knowing the North Vietnamese prison conditions and especially how they handled their "re-education camps" for native South Vietnamese and the survival rate there, would be false hope at best.

Keeping POWs alive would have only been accomplished by the NVA if there was some downstream value, and that value would have been made known by one side or the other publically at some point, if only for one-upsmanship.

Groups like the Vietnam Veterans of America have had ongoing dialogue with the present Government of Vietnam on the the POW issue for years - each giving whatever information it could gather from its veterans on grave sites, etc. So much information was lost on both sides regarding individual and mass graves, making location by incident and ultimate recovery of remains (if still existing) difficult.

My heart goes out for those still grieving lost loved ones and hoping for closure. War is a hell-and-a-half, and Vietnam was no different. It was actually much worse for families of Korean and WWII POW-MIA, especially with the use of POWs as slave labor by Axis nations (nobody seems to want to recognize that anymore!)

If you want to chastise Sen. McCain, a former POW who understand the realism of it all, for not being not-as-sensitive as you would like, that's one thing. At the same time, VietVets are still waiting for Sen. Obama to publically reject Hanoi Jane Fonda's endorsement of him (that means more to many like me than his relationship with Rev. Wright). Ms. Fonda and her comrades were more instrumental in prolonging the Vietnam War and causing more hardship on American families than Reinhart Gehlen and the Black Dragons during WWII.

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Chuckster:

You say what I said but with brevity, so allow me to paste your appropriate categorization of clip and paste:

Contrived videos edited to suit the sender are meaningless regardless of the party affiliation.

BTK

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Yes, the Vietnam POW's hit home with me also. And McCain concealing these records really hits home. >:(

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Article I, section 6 of the Constitution reads as follows,

[i]The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.[/i]No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office. (emphasis added)

The Speech and Debate clause has been interpreted to extend beyond floor speeches, e.g. to committee statements, but it unquestionably applies to floor statements. Thus, any senator - Democrat or Republican - privy to any of those documents could have read the contents of the documents aloud as a floor statement and been with his/her legal rights to do so. I don't see any stampede to condemn the rest of that committee, or any other senator for that matter. Considering the political advantage that could be taken, Sen, Obama and Sen. Biden both can exercise that privilege any day they choose, and Sen. Biden, by virtue of his standing on the Intellilgence Committee, would have immediate access to, and have seen, all of these documents. Yet, he's a "good guy" .....

Why Chelsea's Phillip Butler is against McCain
 

For balance...

http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/...al_reason.html

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Biden is not a good guy. As a ranking member of the Church Committee in 1975 he gleefully led the charge to emasculate our intelligence community. He disassembled a productive network of covert operations, pitted agencies against each other, discouraged the interagency exchange of information and created insurmountable obstacles to the gathering of solid, lifesaving , national security intelligence. (Shades of the current liberal agenda here, history repeating?) You may or may not remember that he precluded us from developing informants with nefarious backgrounds. That's where the best information often came from. I guess he preferred we hit the cocktail circuit with elite internationals who I am sure he believed would give up national secrets for world peace. Many of my friends.... patriots who worked in the trenches to protect this country from those who would do us harm... left government in frustration.

A compelling case can be made that through Biden's liberal assault on the FBI, CIA and a variety of law enforcement and intelligence agencies, he disrupted the system for decades and many, I for one, believe it was his mindless liberalism that opened the door for the tragic events of September 11, 2001. I came out of my chair when I saw him on TV criticizing the lack of intelligence on 9/11. Having lived in that arena, I draw my conclusions on my personal knowledge and understand that others may not share my harsh criticism and dislike for Biden. Sorry for the rant. Not really.

I didn't mean this to be personal testimonial, but I get exercised everytime I am reminded, in my opinion, of what Biden did to this country.

John McCain knows the value of national security intelligence and the consequences of inhibiting it. I remember my mother, a Boston democrat, working on JFK's campaign and my father, a Barry Goldwater republican cancelling each others votes out on election day year after year. The point being I have had great exposure to both sides and have voted both ways based on the candidates.

:cop: :cop: :cop: Oops, is that the topic police crashing through the door?