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inthemindofanurse 10-11-2015 09:06 PM

What's that for? Really?!?!
 
Why, Why, Why do you take a medication and you don't know what it's for? Everyday I see at least one patient that doesn't know their medication list. I try to review what they are taking and it goes something like this:

Me: Are you still taking Losartan?
Patient: I'm not sure, what's that for?
Me: Blood pressure
Patient: Oh yea, I take that
Me: Are you still taking Simvastatin?
Patient?:Umm, what's that one for?
Me: Cholesterol
Patient: Ok, yes I take that
Me: Are you still taking Omeprazole?
Patient: What's another name for that?
Me: {thinks} please just stab me in the eye.

FOLKS, if you are not sure of the drugs you are putting in your body everyday as least carry a list!

Villager Joyce 10-11-2015 09:16 PM

I am taking the prescriptions given to me by your office. You have the list. You have the chart. Quit acting so superior. Work with me, not against me.

jnieman 10-11-2015 09:27 PM

Many times the names on the medications are such long complicated names. When a doctor prescribes a normal brand name which you recognize and know what it is for but then when you get to the pharmacy they fill it with a generic who would recognize some of those names? Plus the person is ill.

inthemindofanurse 10-11-2015 09:27 PM

If you only go to one doctor that would be fine. However, most go to more than one. Also, don't you want to be active if your own healthcare? You don't want to know what the doctor is giving you and why? I agree with your quote "work with me, not against me" Generally, a patient has not more than 10 medications. There are a million out there though. I am not trying to work against you.

graciegirl 10-11-2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse (Post 1127769)
If you only go to one doctor that would be fine. However, most go to more than one. Also, don't you want to be active if your own healthcare? You don't want to know what the doctor is giving you and why? I agree with your quote "work with me, not against me" Generally, a patient has not more than 10 medications. There are a million out there though. I am not trying to work against you.



A little too too, kiddo. Patience and kindness and acceptance goes a long way. They aren't your children, they are your patients.

Sable99 10-11-2015 09:57 PM

I carry a typed list in my wallet with my prescriptions with the daily dosage, the dates of my last tetnus shot, flu shot, pencillian shot, and any allergy I have to a prescription drug.

If I go to a new doctor I hand them my list. They want to know my meds when I have a mammogram, I hand them my list. They love it because they can read it!

I put the list behind my driver's license in my wallet. I fold it so it sticks up a little higher than the license. Hopefully, if I'm ever in a medical emergency where an EMT (or any other emergency team) is involved they will see my med list when they look for my driverr's license.

I've also made medical lists for the three seniors (ages 85, 87 and 91) that I hlelp. Their list also includes my name and phone numbers to call in case of an emergency.

nhelleks 10-11-2015 10:31 PM

If you have a cell phone, put all your medical information on it. The iPhone has a special app that can be accessed by emergency personnel without giving them access to all the private information on your phone. The android phones have a similar app that you must download. It's called ICE(in case of emergency). I recommend this to all my clients.

asianthree 10-11-2015 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse (Post 1127763)
Why, Why, Why do you take a medication and you don't know what it's for? Everyday I see at least one patient that doesn't know their medication list. I try to review what they are taking and it goes something like this:

Me: Are you still taking Losartan?
Patient: I'm not sure, what's that for?
Me: Blood pressure
Patient: Oh yea, I take that
Me: Are you still taking Simvastatin?
Patient?:Umm, what's that one for?
Me: Cholesterol
Patient: Ok, yes I take that
Me: Are you still taking Omeprazole?
Patient: What's another name for that?
Me: {thinks} please just stab me in the eye.

FOLKS, if you are not sure of the drugs you are putting in your body everyday as least carry a list!

Maybe a woodshed would work. In my world we are there to help the patient, not make them feel incompetent. You must have had a really bad day.

manaboutown 10-11-2015 10:48 PM

For me the problem is moot since I take no meds except when I might need an antibiotic once every two or three years. However, if I did require meds I would certainly want to remember what they were, the dosages, how often, and whether they might dangerously interact with other meds. After all, my life might very well depend on such knowledge.

Inexes@aol.com 10-11-2015 11:19 PM

from another nurse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1127766)
I am taking the prescriptions given to me by your office. You have the list. You have the chart. Quit acting so superior. Work with me, not against me.

You are assuming this nurse works in a doctor's office. This nurse most likely is a Home Health Care RN, as I am.... And you have no idea the patients we see on a regular basis that have no idea what they are taking or why. And certainly have NO idea the potential side effects. It would behoove everyone out there to ask your doctor, or simply keep the information provided by your pharmacy, and READ this information. It just may save your life.
It is our job to ask these questions and if you don't know the answer, we will teach you.

TrudyM 10-12-2015 12:13 AM

I use a tiny thumb drive on my keys When we get a new med an outline of what it is for and side effects are usually in the package when I get it filled usually attached to the receipt. I plug in the thumb to my computer and update the meds list with the info. copies of doctors reports on recent scans and tests are also loaded. If I am unable to respond then emts or doctors have a full list of all relevant info. This was suggested by a doctor when we were going to be traveling and we have done it ever since.

golfing eagles 10-12-2015 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse (Post 1127763)
Why, Why, Why do you take a medication and you don't know what it's for? Everyday I see at least one patient that doesn't know their medication list. I try to review what they are taking and it goes something like this:

Me: Are you still taking Losartan?
Patient: I'm not sure, what's that for?
Me: Blood pressure
Patient: Oh yea, I take that
Me: Are you still taking Simvastatin?
Patient?:Umm, what's that one for?
Me: Cholesterol
Patient: Ok, yes I take that
Me: Are you still taking Omeprazole?
Patient: What's another name for that?
Me: {thinks} please just stab me in the eye.

FOLKS, if you are not sure of the drugs you are putting in your body everyday as least carry a list!

Please, before everyone jumps down the OPs throat, recognize how difficult these nurses' jobs are , especially a home care nurse. They are out there, often on their own, on the front line, burdened by a ton of paperwork and regulation, trying to help the patient as best they can. They don't have the authority to change anything, and often are not treated with the respect they deserve by either the patient, their family or even the physician that they are helping out. I agree that the tone of the OP sounds a bit patronizing, but that goes to choice of words and not intent; she makes some very valid points, as does the home care nurse that responded.
To the OP: I understand your frustration, but certainly the exchange you posted is nowhere near the worst you've encountered. This patient at least knew what they were taking the meds for. Remember, their list from their doctor might have read Cozaar, Zocor and Prilosec--then the pharmacist hands them losartan, simvastatin and omeprazole---it's not reasonable to expect the average patient to sort that out. How many times have you asked about meds only to be told "I take a blue pill, a pink pill and a white pill". How many times have you had to deal with a family member with a "chip" on their shoulder? The example you gave is small potatoes (Dan Quayle spelling). But I read your post as showing dedication more than anything negative
To patients: Believe it or not, what appears to be the simple bookkeeping of maintaining a medication list is one of the hardest things we do. Besides patient confusion with brand vs generic names, many are seeing several specialists who change meds without letting the primary care physician know, or they send a 5 page note with the change buried somewhere in the middle. Even with EMRs, printed lists, and asking patients to bring all their pill bottles to their visit, the accuracy of the list is often compromised. Best solution we have found so far is to have the patient ask the specialist to write the medication changes on their list, and then call our office, THAT DAY, and let us know the change. Not perfect, but helpful. Some day, 10-15 years from now, all EMRs will be linked by an interface that will auto-update med lists regardless of prescriber. I'm sure even that system will not be perfect.
To pharmacists: Several pharmacies in our area are now putting the trade name on the label such as this:
Losartan 50 mg
Take one by mouth each morning
GENERIC FOR COZAAR
I would encourage you to put pressure on your professional society and your employers to universally adopt such a label, it would be a big help.

outlaw 10-12-2015 06:50 AM

How about people showing a little interest in their health, or at least what they stick in their mouth. This is just another example of people being too lazy, and/or irresponsible, that they don't even take the effort to understand the cocktail of drugs they are ingesting on a daily basis, but rather rely on their multitude of doctors prescribing numerous drugs and pharmacists accurately filling prescriptions. Most people couldn't even tell you what there blood pressure measurement was at the doctor's visit. Or their glucose or cholesterol numbers. They just respond by saying something like "I don't know, but the doctor didn't say anything was abnormal." God forbid they would ever exercise, eat better and lose weight too control their type 2 diabetes or their cholesterol levels.

graciegirl 10-12-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthemindofanurse (Post 1127763)
Why, Why, Why do you take a medication and you don't know what it's for? Everyday I see at least one patient that doesn't know their medication list. I try to review what they are taking and it goes something like this:

Me: Are you still taking Losartan?
Patient: I'm not sure, what's that for?
Me: Blood pressure
Patient: Oh yea, I take that
Me: Are you still taking Simvastatin?
Patient?:Umm, what's that one for?
Me: Cholesterol
Patient: Ok, yes I take that
Me: Are you still taking Omeprazole?
Patient: What's another name for that?
Me: {thinks} please just stab me in the eye.

FOLKS, if you are not sure of the drugs you are putting in your body everyday as least carry a list!



Not everyone easily understands their medications. Some of my smart in other way friends do not.


I would rephrase your post. The" REALLY" shows your exasperation. That is a no no like RUNNING in a hospital.


Here is how I would say it. (and I am not a nurse) And I do respect and honor all nurses.


As a nurse many times I am faced with patients who are not clear as to what medications they take. This can be dangerous for them at the very least. I am here to ask all of you to take the time today to write down each and all of the medications that you take , including the dosage and put it in your purse or wallet or on your smart phone

. It could save your life.

Never hesitate to ask your doctor, nurse or pharmacist what a medication is for, and what the side effects are and if it reacts with other medications you take or with food. (sometimes something as simple as grapefruit juice can react adversely with some medications)

I am frequently worried about patients who don't have a clear idea what they are taking and why. You can help the medical professionals who are trying to help you if you carry an updated list with you at all times.

outlaw 10-12-2015 07:23 AM

Miss manners....


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