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cglenhar 09-30-2008 08:42 PM

Leisureville
 
This book made me laugh, taught me things I did not know and got me mad all at the same time. I enjoy a book that can do all of that. It was well researched, and entertaining but I object to the notion that we have moved into this community to escape some social obligation that Andrew feels we owe his children.

I looked carefully for suggestions from the author as to how we young retirees should behave. We have been pushed into early retirement to allow greedy corporations to employ younger workers at reduced wages and benefits. I got the feeling that his answer was vaguely that we should live above retail stores, in small apartments in urban areas, so we can baby-sit, chasing our children’s careers around the country living near, but not with them until we are ready for nursing homes, and hopefully early deaths so not to use too much of the limited resources that our gracious children benevolently bestow upon us. The only social activism I hear the author participating in is the selfish pursuit of playgrounds for his children.

I have taught social commitment to my children and am happy to pass the torch to them. I am more than willing to help and mentor, but it is their turn to take the wheel. We are not a society that values our elders, or learns from history. We tend to cast off and disregard our past and are therefore doomed to repeat mistakes. I feel that my choices have a better chance of not repeating the mistakes of the last generation, who held the reigns too long and mentored too little. That is not checking out.

I wish intergenerational planned communities existed like the Villages. Sun, safety, similar interests are the things that drew us to the villages, not the absence of children.

Authentic is a word that the author used to describe the community where he lives, but accidental would be more descriptive. Haphazard development is how our suburbs have erupted. The city people that could afford it, escaped to the suburbs, leaving only those that could not afford to move to struggle in poverty in our urban centers. They took their tax base and cheated the inner city schools out of diversity and funding, never looking back. Talk about social conditions that ruined our traditionally urban neighborhoods, look to the suburbs.

We Americans should realize that the only way to provide successful communities for the future is to plan them. There is no hope for success in the accidental way our communities now emerge. We have the ability to plan new communities but have only done it on a small experimental scale. It may take an intergenerational Village to secure the successful community of the future. There is the topic for your next book Andrew.

Cassie325 09-30-2008 09:47 PM

This was a beautiful post. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I will read this book with new insights. Thank you again!

cglenhar 10-01-2008 09:24 AM

my new thing: Blogging
 
Thanks for the comment, It was a fun read and it got me trying something new, blogging. My daughter taught me the basics and I's writing about life here in the Villages.

Cassie325 10-01-2008 09:26 AM

Well good for you!! And :welcome: to the best Website on the planet! Glad you found your way here!!

Taltarzac 10-01-2008 11:43 AM

civicventures.org
 
On the last page of Andrew Blechman's book Leisureville-- in the Acknowledgments section p. 244-- he does mention groups working for social re-engagement. He only mentions this one-- http://civicventures.org/.

dfn8tly 10-01-2008 12:20 PM

Contrary to Mr. Blechman's apparent observation, I've lived in TV now for 2 1/2 months and I still haven't been invited to a single orgy. Is it me?

Skip 10-01-2008 10:08 PM

Is it me?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dfn8tly (Post 163401)
Contrary to Mr. Blechman's apparent observation, I've lived in TV now for 2 1/2 months and I still haven't been invited to a single orgy. Is it me?

Yes, definitely!

Skip

Cassie325 10-01-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfn8tly (Post 163401)
Contrary to Mr. Blechman's apparent observation, I've lived in TV now for 2 1/2 months and I still haven't been invited to a single orgy. Is it me?

OMG!!! :1rotfl::1rotfl: That was very cute....you may have been serious but I thought it very cute and funny....

PS....I don't think they really exist....so don't take it personally...:icon_wink:


For all of you who know they do exist or think you do or want to just bust my chops....I don't want to know....YUK :MOJE_whot:

faithfulfrank 10-02-2008 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassie325 (Post 163629)
OMG!!! That was very cute....you may have been serious but I thought it very cute and funny....

PS....I don't think they really exist....so don't take it personally...:icon_wink:


For all of you who know they do exist or think you do or want to just bust my chops....I don't want to know....YUK :

Wow Cassie.....another thing we agree on....Macs and fidelity! After 28 years of marriage, I've always believed that when you have a pool you don't go to the beach.....:)
Hey...like the new pic!

Frank D......can't wait to be back in Florida on MONDAY..YIPPEE!!!

Cassie325 10-02-2008 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by faithfulfrank (Post 163695)
Wow Cassie.....another thing we agree on....Macs and fidelity! After 28 years of marriage, I've always believed that when you have a pool you don't go to the beach.....:)
Hey...like the new pic!

Frank D......can't wait to be back in Florida on MONDAY..YIPPEE!!!

I am sure Batavia is a little :cold: about this time....can't say that I miss the area....you are not going to want to leave once you get here...no matter where you are in FL....weather is great!


Back to the thread...sort of...

Yes....I am apparenlty a prude about stuff like that....yuk....

I may not be in a conventional relationship in some folks minds....but it is love and it is monogomous forever.....

God Bless anyone who thinks otherwise....YUK YUK YUK
But to each their own...glad we agree faithful....

another Linda 10-02-2008 07:37 PM

I finally read Leisureville. Didn't quite seem like the TV I know and love. Mr. Midnight? Hard to believe. Guess I'm not his type.

rshoffer 10-02-2008 07:53 PM

What a coincidence... I just ordered a used copy from Amazon yesterday. I still have a touch of ambivalence about bailing on my state of Pa. I guess that's why I ordered it.

BillArmyRet 10-03-2008 09:27 AM

No orgies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dfn8tly (Post 163401)
Contrary to Mr. Blechman's apparent observation, I've lived in TV now for 2 1/2 months and I still haven't been invited to a single orgy. Is it me?

You mean I'm selling my house, giving the furniture to my daughter and plan to buy an overpriced house in the middle of Fl and There are no orgies. I'm suing the author.:cus:

bestmickey 10-04-2008 03:49 PM

Does everyone really think/believe that "Mr. Midnight" really exists as reported? I haven't read the book, but my first thought was that "Mr. Midnight" is just a braggart. All talk. No action.

Skip 10-11-2008 10:28 AM

Barnes & Noble Problem
 
Everyone know that the developer will not allow Barnes & Noble to sell LEISUREVILLE here in the Villages. I wonder why that is. ??? :rant-rave:

Skip


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