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Guest 10-01-2008 05:14 PM

This Is So Sad It's Laughable
 
Congressman Donald Young, a Republican who is Alaska's only representative in the House of Representatives voted No to the financial rescue proposal on Monday. But now that there's some momentum for the ultimate passage of the legislation, Representative Young decided to extract some good out this thing other than just the provisions of the financial rescue. In Section 503 of the revised bill, a provision has been added at Representative Young's request that will lower the excise tax on wooden arrows (yes, like in bows and arrows). Reportedly, the "arrow amendment" was drafted for Representative Young by a lobbyist for a sporting goods manufacturer. Representative Young has agreed to vote Yes on he re-vote if his amendment is included in the bill.

I'm sure there are probably some Democratic congressmen who are "piling on" this bill, as well. But if there was ever an example of someone who was lining his pockets when he should be considering the resolution of a national crisis, this is it.

Tom Friedman of the New York Times was right when he wrote in today's column, "I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it.

Guest 10-01-2008 05:22 PM

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Congressman Donald Young, a Republican who is Alaska's only representative in the House of Representatives voted No to the financial rescue proposal on Monday. But now that there's some momentum for the ultimate passage of the legislation, Representative Young decided to extract some good out this thing other than just the provisions of the financial rescue. In Section 503 of the revised bill, a provision has been added at Representative Young's request that will lower the excise tax on wooden arrows (yes, like in bows and arrows). Reportedly, the "arrow amendment" was drafted for Representative Young by a lobbyist for a sporting goods manufacturer. Representative Young has agreed to vote Yes on he re-vote if his amendment is included in the bill.

I'm sure there are probably some Democratic congressmen who are "piling on" this bill, as well. But if there was ever an example of someone who was lining his pockets when he should be considering the resolution of a national crisis, this is it.

Tom Friedman of the New York Times was right when he wrote in today's column, "I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it.

:agree::agree::agree:

And I hope someone tells him where to put his arrows

Guest 10-01-2008 05:36 PM

I believe that the Republicans will finally get there "dream" tax cut for corporations tacked onto this bill. Our government, working for us....err....Corporate America that is. :shrug:

Guest 10-01-2008 06:41 PM

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I believe that the Republicans will finally get there "dream" tax cut for corporations tacked onto this bill. Our government, working for us....err....Corporate America that is. :shrug:

When the Senate's bill gets posted, just see how many sweetheart pieces of legislation are tacked into the bill, most of which will have nothing to do with the basic bill. It's sinful.

Guest 10-01-2008 06:47 PM

I'm sure there are probably some Democratic congressmen who are "piling on" this bill,
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And you didnt mention them why ??????

Guest 10-01-2008 06:57 PM

Why are "some" of you....
 
alluding "some" Dems or Repubs may be piling onto this bill.
Where have you been hiding? It is standard practice.
What do you think takes so long? The bill's initial intention....no way...earmarks/pork. It is the way the sludge speed process works.
A better use of the word some might be....some may not be piling on....but I doubt it.

BTK

Guest 10-01-2008 07:04 PM

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:agree::agree::agree:

And I hope someone tells him where to put his arrows


"Senators attached a provision repealing a 39-cent excise tax on wooden arrows designed for children to an historic $700 billion bank rescue that is likely to pass tonight. The provision, originally proposed by Oregon senators Ron Wyden and Gordon Smith, will save manufacturers such as Rose City Archery in Myrtle Point, Oregon, about $200,000 a year."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...N8L2k&refer=us

In order to make a point I will add that the two senators mentioned are split between the parties..one Dem one Rep.....

WHy is the point their party may I ask...why could this story not have been posted as disgust with congress instead of making it political UNLESS you feel that one party is the only one guilty !

Guest 10-01-2008 07:17 PM

That is disgusting. What is worse is the way they put this junk in critical bills and think nothing of it. There is no shame. We sit in impotent rage and they know we can't and won't do a thing. As I have said before, don't vote for your incumbent, but I want to vote for mine. That is how these craven buffoons keep their exalted positions.

Guest 10-01-2008 07:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 163554)
That is disgusting. What is worse is the way they put this junk in critical bills and think nothing of it. There is no shame. We sit in impotent rage and they know we can't and won't do a thing. As I have said before, don't vote for your incumbent, but I want to vote for mine. That is how these craven buffoons keep their exalted positions.

From the President to both candidates for President and throughout the entire congress they have lived DOWN to my expectations during this time.

Guest 10-01-2008 07:47 PM

Can anyone say "term Limits" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest 10-01-2008 07:55 PM

Reading Speed And Comprehension
 
Bucco, you either read too fast or you don't comprehend all the words you do read. Let me reference something I said in the original post that you apparently didn't understand...

I'm sure there are probably some Democratic congressmen who are "piling on" this bill, as well.


Then I quoted Tom Friedman's criticism of the entire elected government and said I agreed. You however, following your speed reading approach, somehow interpreted these clear words as a partisan message opposing your political views.

Next time I'll try to make my messages simpler and more to the point with fewer big words and long sentences. All I'd ask of you is to read slower and see if you can understand without trying to apply your own political spin. Better yet, when you see my posts, why not just avoid reading them. They seem to upset you too much. I'll do the same for you.

Guest 10-01-2008 08:03 PM

Term limits! Term Limits!!!!



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Posted by Guest (Post 163564)
Can anyone say "term Limits" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Guest 10-01-2008 08:07 PM

Your sarcasm below aside...

"Next time I'll try to make my messages simpler and more to the point with fewer big words and long sentences. All I'd ask of you is to read slower and see if you can understand without trying to apply your own political spin. Better yet, when you see my posts, why not just avoid reading them. They seem to upset you too much. I'll do the same for you. "


In your initial thread post you mentioned ONLY ONE PERSON BY NAME and took an entire paragraph; it was the centerpiece of your post. I believe there were 3 sentences that followed the description of this particular congressman.

NOW..understand I do not defend this man in anyway...I just wondered how all the other stuff that was readily available was not the subject of your critcism, and the only thing I asked was why you did not mention the Democrats by name,

Seems to me my question was clear as a bell and you understood it, but I dont think it deserved your sarcasm...I understood....I posted about BOTH parties and if you are upset with congress then SAY IT....dont spin it one way or another.

If you are going to get upset and police my posts, then please do the same for those who routinely make the personal comments....or is that ok as long as you agree with their politics ????????

Guest 10-01-2008 08:22 PM

I read on the CNN site...or MSNBC that it's now up to 800-billion due to all the projected add-on's.

Guest 10-01-2008 10:29 PM

I agree term limits lets vote them all out. No lobbyist allowed and no pork barrel projects. Get back to the real business of government.


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