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happydaze 12-12-2015 10:47 AM

pool costs
 
can anyone tell me the approximate cost of a new pool. we would like it to be about 12x20 with a small water feature and birdcage. we would like to use t&d or all seasons.thanks for any replys.

Kahuna32162 12-12-2015 11:31 AM

Our pool was installed by T&D in 2007 (by a previous owner) Pool, birdcage and filter/heater system was $37K.

villagetinker 12-12-2015 11:37 AM

Also check on the monthly upkeep costs, I am guessing that based on our hot tub, you will be looking at $100 or more per month for weekly maintenance. You will also have the heating costs, either solar, electric, or gas. No idea of the cost of these systems, but recently there was a thread about the high costs of propane and the TV was a captive market for Suburban Propane.
As for your pool, there are way too many variables to get a good cost here, IMHO. In a Birdcage? Type of birdcage, aluminum or columns? Size of Birdcage? Concrete finish? Type of screening? Electrical service to this area? Additional landscaping, moving existing irrigation, etc.
Hope this helps.

Kahuna32162 12-12-2015 12:10 PM

Very good point, all of these are factors. We pay $106/month for maint and did look into coveting to the solar heat option after our existing heat pump fails. Cost about $4500, but will not do you much good in cooler weather. You can also usually count on your pool be shut down for part of December, January and February depending on the weather. It was very cold here last winter.

Bogie Shooter 12-12-2015 05:39 PM

It costs nothing to get an estimate.......from a pool contractor.

justjim 12-12-2015 05:51 PM

I would give T & D a call and get an appointment for an exact cost. There are so many variables when it comes to a pool----$50,000 to $65,000 would be my educated guess.

The Buckeyes 12-13-2015 07:46 AM

Size and options are the variables that will determine the cost. Get an estimate from both. We went with T&D. Just remember you get what you pay for. Don't forget warranty and servicing any problems you may have after installation.

Chatbrat 12-13-2015 01:40 PM

A pool is a personalized toy. Don't count on recovering anything close to your costs. Its for personal enjoyment & convenience.

jimbo2012 12-13-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahuna32162 (Post 1157734)
You can also usually count on your pool be shut down for part of December, January and February depending on the weather. It was very cold here last winter.

Just get solar panels sized correctly swim almost all year.

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1158180)
A pool is a personalized toy. Don't count on recovering anything close to your costs. Its for personal enjoyment & convenience.

You will not only recover your costs but the home will sell faster.

John_W 12-13-2015 07:26 PM

I had an 18 x 36 vinyl pool at my home in Pensacola from 1978 to 1982 and I maintained it myself. We didn't have birdcages, all pools in Pensacola and Ft. Walton Beach area just have fencing around your yard but no aluminum birdcage screen. I don't understand what all the costs are that come to $100 a month maintenance.

My biggest expense was the pool filter electricity, which ran a $1 a day, $30 a month on the electric bill. SECO here in Sumter County is much cheaper, we had extremly high bills in Escambia County. My normal routine was I would go outside and check both skimmer baskets everyday, just empty them out on the ground if anything was inside. Without the birdcage we did have leaves and one time a water moccasin, that a nice surprise. I had an automated chlorinator attached to the filter and I would buy cartridges at Walmart for about $12 and each one lasted about 3 weeks. I would also buy a 50 gallon drum of raw chlorine that I would dump a good amount into the pool every spring to shock the pool. I would run the hand held net across the top of the water to pick up any loose leaves or pine needles, etc. The Kreepy Krawler would sweep around on the bottom and I would backwash the pool filter about once a week. I would check the ph levels about once a week or whenever it might look a little bad, which was really never. I think vinyl pools are inherently clearer because only vinyl is touching the water. I maybe spent 10 to 15 minutes a day of my time, and this is when I had a job and not retired.

My pool looked very similar to this vinyl pool. You can see a white coping edge around the top of the pool, that holds the liner. I like the looks of a vinyl pool because they usually come with a tile border, which is imprinted in the liner, and you can even get designs for the bottom. The sides of the pool are constructed with 4' high plastic panels that lock together and they insert foam padding on the sides as well. The bottom is sculpted using vermiculite which runs up the sides in the deep area until they reach the side panels. Once it's completed the liner is much more comfortable on your feet as you walk around the pool. The sides are softer in case you hit your knees because of the padding. The pool stays clear much easier and retains the heat longer. In 1978 I had the pool installed with one ladder, steps, a diving board and one underwater light plus a good amount of decking for a total cost of $7,800. How times have changed.

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kcrazorbackfan 12-13-2015 08:25 PM

Years back, I owned a home with a pool in Arkansas; it was a continual hole in the ground to pour money into. Sold the house, bought another one (w/o a pool) and bought a couple of airplanes - found out that those were continual holes in the sky to pour money into. Sooooooo glad we bought a home here 5 houses from the neighborhood pool.

I now let someone else deal with the continual expense, maintenance and headaches. :a040::a040:

john1953 12-14-2015 05:18 AM

Our pool was built in 2010 by T&D.Its 14 x 24 concrete with a water fall.Goes form 3 1/2 feet to 6 1/2 feet.total cost with birdcage and redoing the landscaping with brick pavers was 40 grand

talgeria 12-14-2015 06:59 AM

All seasons did a good job good price

Roaddog53 12-14-2015 07:26 AM

I have had 2 pools in TV built aftermarket in the last 3 years and 3 in previous residences indoor and outdoor. If you have someone maintain your pool it is what they are saying, about $100 a month includingcleaning, and chemicals depending on pool size. I maintain it myself. Very easy to do andcost sonly chemicals. I have it checked as a second verification and to keep the warranty by Pinch a Penny. You need records of upkeep by a pool business.
Costs I track: 10,500 gal pool
Chemicals
$19 per month for an Ozone (All Seaons)/UV(T&D uses) pool system
$25 per month for a salt system. Mostly in acid
Pump electrical
$17-20 per month approximately avg all year. Runs less in winter
$75 every 2 years for a new filter avg if maintained correctly

Pools vary pricing as said. T&D will be the highest,but by far the best in what you get if compared apples to apples. Their warranty and service is excellent. They have great pool ideas.
Figure about $45-50,000 for a nice pool. No concrete walls, a waterfall, and some extras like cap tile.
Get the auto drain/fill option and antifreeze option. WELL worth it!

In my opinion, an ozone/UV pool is the best system out there by far. Cleaner, less chemicals, letter feeling on skin, much easier on pool equipment and accessories such as chrome. Also, replacing a salt generator is expensive in about 5 years or so. All Olympic pools worldwide use ozone and many municipalities. It is also used by municipalities to maintain public water. Check it out for yourself.

Solar? Just my opinion! ... Not worth it. About $4500-6000 depending on pool size and panels. It gives you in central Florida about 6 additional weeks of swimming in the winter. Maybe from late November to January. There is NO monetary payback on it unless you compare it to using propane, or your payback is the added 6 weeks you might swim. Yes it can heat your pool, and in some cases cool itin the summer. Ours stays in the mid 80s May through October with no cover on it either.Ask how many swim in Dec-Feb in their solar pools. Go to the community pools and see how many are there when it is 50-60 outside let alone their own. We swim from early March to mid November with no cover and pool in the mid-high 70s. Ours was73 yesterday.
Propane? Be prepared to spend $200+ a month depending on how warm you want to keep it in the winter and how often would you go in it.
You would need to keep a cover on either system in those months to battle the 28-45 degree nights.
Remember, you can always go in the community pools during those months.
Hope that helps

simpilot 12-14-2015 07:30 AM

There are so many options you need to choose when buying a pool that the price could vary by a factor of almost three. Type of decking, square feet of decking, tile selection, raised sections of deck, water features, underwater lighting, length of steps, swimouts, .... The point is you need to get an estimate for what you like.


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