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justjim 12-15-2015 01:09 PM

Planned Development across from Pinellas
 
The unnamed on-line news has news regarding 400 bungalows for 55 & over with two car garages $3,000-4,600 a month on 3 year leases. The pet friendly community will have a community center, pool and fitness center. An Apartment building (perhaps six stories tall), assisted living center and commercial space are also included in this planned development by WholeLife Development. This still must be approved by the Wildwood Council.

Next to this Development is the proposed Trailwinds Development with 572,750 sq.ft. Retail space, 296 homes, and 151,500 sq.ft. Of office space that has yet to break ground for some time. Trailwinds butts up to Sandhill executive course and to houses already built by The Villages developer.

The Villages Developer attempted to purchase and build on these properties but their proposal was turned down by the Wildwood Council.

Well, what do you think? Is all this "good or ugly" as grandpa use to say---for all of us village residents. Do you know or do you care? Does the Wildwood City Council know what they are doing or is this going to be a "bust"?

skip0358 12-15-2015 01:11 PM

Doesn't much matter to me. Their making a HUGE investment. Didn't think there was that much of a demand for high end living thou. Time will tell.

CFrance 12-15-2015 01:26 PM

I am very glad TV did not get that property, as they were not going to have any access to it through anything other than a tiny road in Tamarind Grove. It is already a struggle to turn left out of Tamarind Grove Run in the winter season. This development will have access through 466A.

The only thing I see as a problem for them are the three-year leases. Who knows what is going to happen in their lives in the next three years? I sure wouldn't want to commit to a lease for three years.

I hope their retail space will have another grocery store.

dewilson58 12-15-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1159065)
Doesn't much matter to me. Their making a HUGE investment. Didn't think there was that much of a demand for high end living thou. Time will tell.

I agree..............not sure of the demand at that price point and term. I'm not excited, could definitely be an eye sore if it doesn't work. Depending on what "retail" comes in, could also be a sore. Hope I'm worrying too much and in five years, I'm looking at it with a smile.

dewilson58 12-15-2015 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1159063)
The unnamed on-line news has news regarding 400 bungalows for 55 & over with two car garages $3,000-4,600 a month on 3 year leases. The pet friendly community will have a community center, pool and fitness center. An Apartment building (perhaps six stories tall), assisted living center and commercial space are also included in this planned development by WholeLife Development. This still must be approved by the Wildwood Council.

Next to this Development is the proposed Trailwinds Development with 572,750 sq.ft. Retail space, 296 homes, and 151,500 sq.ft. Of office space that has yet to break ground for some time. Trailwinds butts up to Sandhill executive course and to houses already built by The Villages developer.

The Villages Developer attempted to purchase and build on these properties but their proposal was turned down by the Wildwood Council.

Well, what do you think? Is all this "good or ugly" as grandpa use to say---for all of us village residents. Do you know or do you care? Does the Wildwood City Council know what they are doing or is this going to be a "bust"?


So you can't even say *************??

Wow, that was cool.

biker1 12-15-2015 02:08 PM

It appears that The Villages proposed development had access via 466A and 462, same as the new development plan.

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1159073)
I am very glad TV did not get that property, as they were not going to have any access to it through anything other than a tiny road in Tamarind Grove. It is already a struggle to turn left out of Tamarind Grove Run in the winter season. This development will have access through 466A.

The only thing I see as a problem for them are the three-year leases. Who knows what is going to happen in their lives in the next three years? I sure wouldn't want to commit to a lease for three years.

I hope their retail space will have another grocery store.


buzzy 12-15-2015 02:32 PM

Six story apartment building would be an eyesore around here.

CFrance 12-15-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1159088)
It appears that The Villages proposed development had access via 466A and 462, same as the new development plan.

I did not think there was any golf cart access anywhere except through Tamarind Grove postal station/pool park area.

justjim 12-15-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1159073)
I am very glad TV did not get that property, as they were not going to have any access to it through anything other than a tiny road in Tamarind Grove. It is already a struggle to turn left out of Tamarind Grove Run in the winter season. This development will have access through 466A.

The only thing I see as a problem for them are the three-year leases. Who knows what is going to happen in their lives in the next three years? I sure wouldn't want to commit to a lease for three years.

I hope their retail space will have another grocery store.

With all due respect, I remember the TV developer having access off 466A similar to the current proposal before the Wildwood City Council. We know the type of work the TV developer has done with The Villages. I figure the TV developer would never build "rentals" on that property, in fact, his proposal didn't include apartments. Tamarind Grove and St. James could have the most to lose with this so called mix-use development.

biker1 12-15-2015 06:11 PM

Golf cart access is a lot different than car traffic. I am not sure I see the problem but it really doesn't matter anymore.

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1159177)
I did not think there was any golf cart access anywhere except through Tamarind Grove postal station/pool park area.


CFrance 12-15-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1159182)
Golf cart access is a lot different than car traffic. I am not sure I see the problem but it really doesn't matter anymore.

I would not like to have 800 additional golf carts funneling in and out through one street in our small neighborhood. There would be a vast increase in traffic turning left out of Tamarind Grove onto St. Charles.

Yes, it doesn't matter anymore. I'm just stating my opinion that I'm glad it didn't go through.

RickeyD 12-15-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1159188)
I don't like it; wish they could have kept it pasture land with cattle. Just as long as they don't allow some of the s**t trash from across the tracks in Wildwood to slip thru the cracks (you know, move in with Grandma or something like that) and filter in.

Don't think anyone from Wildwood is gonna lease here. Frankly don't think too many folks from anywhere will cough up 4K per month to rent in Central Florida ( AKA off the coast ):shocked: It ain't The Villages and will never be.:shocked:

JP 12-15-2015 07:07 PM

I looked up the Wholelife company on the internet and it looks like they build a pretty sweet looking, high end development that would be a real asset to the area.

gomoho 12-15-2015 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 1159202)
I looked up the Wholelife company on the internet and it looks like they build a pretty sweet looking, high end development that would be a real asset to the area.

Sweet looking, high end development at $4k a month sounds much better then a bungalow with a two car garage.

JoMar 12-15-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1159198)
Don't think anyone from Wildwood is gonna lease here. Frankly don't think too many folks from anywhere will cough up 4K per month to rent in Central Florida ( AKA off the coast ):shocked: It ain't The Villages and will never be.:shocked:

I suspect that the company has a deeply researched business plan and have built other similar projects. They know who will be interested. Also, we have no idea so everything we put on here is pure speculation. I also suspect that if anyone had said anyone would pay 350K+ for a Courtyard Villa a few years ago we may have had the same opinion.


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