Why Obama prefers to take the heat that comes with executive actions?
 

First and foremost it is because he is incapable of leding, communicating and negotiating with congress. (His negotiating score card is atrocious....i.e. Iran nuclear deal).

As a trained lawyer he is very well tuned to perfecting doing whatever the letter of the law allows....which means using the law, abusing the law of just hiding behind the law.

Hence any action he takes even those where he is definitely on the thin ice of breaking the law allows him to claim an accomplishment. Keep in mind that to Obama on some subjects, just talking about an issue constitutes him addressing it.

Some past presidents earned the title "teflon" because it seemed no matter what they did nothing ever stuck to them. NOT OBAMA! Nothing ticks to him as he will always play it safe and do nothing.....even as our enemies openly defy America by killing it's citizens.

Back to gun controt shootings. There is not one single action he is proposing that would have eliminated any of the past mass shootings. And will not stop any future mass shootings. He has merely taken those controversial steps that allow him to put another "accomplishment" in his resume'....as measured by the Obama rules for measuring such.

As for his tearful performance yesterday....extremely dis-ingenuine....phony....part of the script.....for the lemmings and media and the uninformed.

Just compare what he is proposing against the most strict gun laws in the country in effect in Chicago and Washington, DC. Just look at the track record of gun violence in those two cities......the absolute worst.

So Obama's executive orders allow him to claim he has done something to show taking action against gun violence......words, words, words only.

Those actions will have the same effect our current immigration laws have on illegal immigration.

Pure and simple no matter what the man does, it is all about him.

He has proven over these past 7 years America and it's people are not his priorities. Quite the opposite.

His legacy? He will make Jimmy Carter look like an aggressive president.

Obama is America's worst failed experiment. With all of Jimmy "the peanut" Carter's faults, he still acted professional compared to this wannabee Entertainer-in-Chief. The only positive thing that I can give Obama credit for is in making Carter look better.

Why did you not oppose the executive orders of GW Bush? You do know he had more of those than Obama?

You do realize that the Republican issued a pocket veto for everything in the Senate?

There is always a cause and effect!!!

Perhaps our elected officials should try to work together.

How many laws did Bush produce by E.O.? How many did he break by his E.O.? Just because someone else does something first, does that make it right? I thought your Obummer was supposed to do things different? Oh, he sure did do things different. Let's face it, if Bush did what Obummer has done, they would have impeached him. Obummer gets a free pass on everything he does, and everyone just smiles politely, like he is a mentally retarded child.

You liberals consider working together to mean, do it our way. Well, we have seen how "your" way has been with the disastrous Obamacare, and his leading from behind failed foreign policy.

All we want from him now is to do nothing, say nothing and go away peacefully with his failed record as an experimental president.

Another idiotic liberal argument

Since when is the NUMBER of EO's the factor that counts?
How many of Bush's were illegal, unconstitutional, or rewrote the law?
Bush signs an EO allowing service animals in National Parks, and you equate that with Obama letting animals out of Gitmo?
It's like saying someone with 500 transactions totaling $200 on their Christmas (I know, not PC, and I don't care) Club account MUST be wealthier than Bill Gates, who only had one transaction (for 15 billion).

Actually this should answer your question:

An article about his signing statements....

Bush's Tactic of Refusing Laws Is Probed

Not going to go tit for tat with you because you are unarmed.

Exactly what reason is there to compare Bush with Obama, other than an attempt to defend Obama's total disregard for working with the Republicans? Is Obama that bad and weak that he needs to be constantly shored up and defended?

I believe the question that you ignored was, what E.O.'s did Bush produced that were laws bypassing congress? You do know that the president does not make laws, right? It was the liberals on here that had to bring Bush into the thread, so at least answer the question.

Obama said last night that he taught Constitutional law, and knows it. But, he is questioning his AG on how he can change the law regarding the 2nd Amendment. How does that figure? And why is it that half the time Obama's E.O's are thrown out by the courts? Was he that bad of a part-time associate professor that he can't remember his own teachings?

Obama's tears last night just tore me up........:a20:

Now this one is funny...you all voted a Congress in that will not work with the President did you forget that. You all have a Congressional rule,
The Hastert Rule, also known as the "majority of the majority" rule, is an informal governing principle used by Republican Speakers of the House of Representatives since the mid-1990s to maintain their speakerships and limit the power of the minority party to bring bills up for a vote on the floor of the House. Yep you want to work with the other side..

Is Obama that bad and weak that he needs to be constantly shored up and defended?

I believe the question that you ignored was, what E.O.'s did Bush produced that were laws bypassing congress? He did that on signing statements or do you forget that? So is one for you...

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publica...rcing-the-laws

This one allowed torture something no President before him did!


You do know that the president does not make laws, right? It was the liberals on here that had to bring Bush into the thread, so at least answer the question.

I believe I have answered your questions. But why shouldn't Bush be compared?

Obama said last night that he taught Constitutional law, and knows it. But, he is questioning his AG on how he can change the law regarding the 2nd Amendment. How does that figure? And why is it that half the time Obama's E.O's are thrown out by the courts?
His recess appointments, because the Republicans sorta left the lights on so he couldn't make these appoints was thrown out be the Supreme Court. But you said half his EO's are thrown out by the courts. The best count I could get was 227 EO's by Obama so that would be 113 EO's thrown out be the courts. I make it easy for you just provide a link to 5 court ruling on different EO's I await your research.

Was he that bad of a part-time associate professor that he can't remember his own teachings?I didn't take a class from him so I can't speak to that. [/QUOTE]

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Before you get yourself needlessly worked up over nothing.....how about reminding us of all the great things Obama got done with the cooperation of the democratic controlled congress.

We will save you time.....no more than he got done when it was half and half and no less done when the democrats control zero!

Save the BS!

When you use words like "Obummer" you show your ignorance. Typical of a fading republican party, how does it feel to be a minority?

The rapidly declining Republicans/Tea Bag Partiers depend on ignorance.

The Evangelicals in Iowa and South Carolina are not typical of most Americans. These are the ones who believe the Earth is about 6,000 years old.

The Iowa Caucus system is not even real voting with booths, etc. it is basically just a group meeting for coffee, cake, and deciding as a small group which Republican clown they want to drive the clown car.

That makes no sense, since all the clowns are progressive liberals

Dear Guests:

I stated in a previous thread that the statistical data produced by another guest to refute my claims of Obama's devastating legacy spoke to quantitative but not qualitative nature of the Executive Actions, work-arounds using federal agencies etc. Indeed intent is of paramount importance. Its the difference between American soldiers storming a hill in Iwo Jima to protesters storming police stations because they hate pigs.

This Bush-Obama comparison used by progressives is really old, means nothing because we are discussing the present...what is happening now

Progressives use "presentism" meaning using the mores, customs, etc of today and project them back to previous periods in history. It is wrong and it is morally wrong. Its why college students today refuse and criticize the classics because they were written by racial angry white men

But they jump the shark, forgetting the accomplishments made concerning race over the intervening years. Today, frankly speaking, it is Obama and company (Sharptons, Black Lives Matter,etc) that are acting out as racists.

I predicted when Obama won his first election that he would act out "getting the man" (his disdain for all that is America)and not recognizing he is "the man"

Obama the Terrible has wasted 8 years trying to get even with angry white men when ironically white men today are the ones who elected him.

When that young white woman was murdered by an illegal alien in one of the 300 or so sanctuary cities not only did Obama not cry he did not acknowledge it until he was forced to and then his begrudging demeanor spoke to his insincerity

Voters are angry at all politicians ,Obama, congress lobbyist, etc

However the last thing voters need to do is vote in another president who will operate like a monarch . So in my view Trump, Cruz, Clinton are lousy choices because they will operate in the same manner and America will continue its slide to oblivion .

We need a grown up to occupy the White House and we need voters who will surpress their anger and channel it into securing as much detail as possible to make the wisest choice of this important right we call "our vote"

Personal Best Regards:

Before you get yourself needlessly worked up over nothing.....how about reminding us of all the great things Obama got done with the cooperation of the democratic controlled congress.

We will save you time.....no more than he got done when it was half and half and no less done when the democrats control zero!

Save the BS![/QUOTE]

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