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twoplanekid 01-28-2016 09:40 AM

Over reach or a sign of the times
 
Has anyone else attended a Village Club function to be asked to sign a release, waive, forever discharge, hold harmless, and covenant not to sue activity release form? I am told that everyone who participates must sign one every year. I must have missed this request last year.

For me, this requests comes on top of now having to register with the Feds to fly any RC device over .55 pounds and a new EAA requirement for having a background check to be able to fly Young Eagles. I look at the new rules, regulations, and requirements as a troublesome preview of the future.

I understand that I should look the other way and just sign as requested. Now, about the new requirements for golf carts that I would like to see enacted in the Villages …..

Mudder 01-28-2016 09:43 AM

You're always asked in January to sign one so you don't sue the rec center when you hurt yourself over doing an activity.

graciegirl 01-28-2016 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1178563)
Has anyone else attended a Village Club function to be asked to sign a release, waive, forever discharge, hold harmless, and covenant not to sue activity release form? I am told that everyone who participates must sign one every year. I must have missed this request last year.

For me, this requests comes on top of now having to register with the Feds to fly any RC device over .55 pounds and a new EAA requirement for having a background check to be able to fly Young Eagles. I look at the new rules, regulations, and requirements as a troublesome preview of the future.

I understand that I should look the other way and just sign as requested. Now, about the new requirements for golf carts that I would like to see enacted in the Villages …..



It has always been around, the disclaimer. "They" cross their t's and dot their i's.


and I think that for awhile a lot of people keep looking for the downside here. It really IS too good to be true. You will see pretty soon that it doesn't have to be changed. At first I thought that I was being taken. Or hoodwinked, or sucked in. But I am a huge fan now.

villagetinker 01-28-2016 09:56 AM

We did this for the car club meetings, I was not aware it was for ALL clubs.

Skip 01-28-2016 10:12 AM

If the Rec. Dept. wants members to sign the release every year, they should accost the residents themselves. not ask the club leaders to hassle them. It's not the club's responsibility to do the legal department's job. Clubs have too much to do renewing memberships in January as it is. Besides there is nothing that says you can't use the recreation facilities if you don't sign. In many of the clubs that I belong to, most members refuse to sign it. There is one club that I know of that requires you to sign the release to be a member. I think that's unfair.

By signing it, you give up your rights to blame the district for their negligence.

I vote OVER REACH.

Skip

Skip 01-28-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1178568)
It has always been around, the disclaimer. "They" cross their t's and dot their i's.

Nope, this started just a few years ago. There was no release forms about 7 years ago. It was the legal department's afterthought.

Skip

Marathon Man 01-28-2016 10:18 AM

I have signed many a release form over the years. Always an option. I can choose not to participate in the activity that requires that I sign a release.

twoplanekid 01-28-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1178569)
We did this for the car club meetings, I was not aware it was for ALL clubs.

They tell me that one only needs to sign once for all activities in The Villages. The agencies asking for protection are government agencies as presented in the IRS law suit. Maybe the City of Urbana is not as sophisticated as the Villages is in asking for protection from their own citizens. I have never signed anything like this up north in Urbana to go to the parks or participate in Urbana functions.

NYGUY 01-28-2016 11:06 AM

I believe the release form is for The Recreation Dept. facilities/equipment not for a club. I sign one at the beginning of the year at whatever Recreation Center I go into first and that one release is good for all for the year.

graciegirl 01-28-2016 11:16 AM

  • Quote:

    Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1178598)
    They tell me that one only needs to sign once for all activities in The Villages. The agencies asking for protection are government agencies as presented in the IRS law suit. Maybe the City of Urbana is not as sophisticated as the Villages is in asking for protection from their own citizens. I have never signed anything like this up north in Urbana to go to the parks or participate in Urbana functions.



???????????????? Urbana, though lovely, is small. I think it has around 9000 residents now.. You could go to Main Street and holler if you want to tell people something.

Bogie Shooter 01-28-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1178598)
They tell me that one only needs to sign once for all activities in The Villages. The agencies asking for protection are government agencies as presented in the IRS law suit. Maybe the City of Urbana is not as sophisticated as the Villages is in asking for protection from their own citizens. I have never signed anything like this up north in Urbana to go to the parks or participate in Urbana functions.

All things are different "up north".
Just get over it!

Buffalo Jim 01-28-2016 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1178624)


???????????????? Urbana, though lovely, is small. I think it has around 9000 residents now.. You could go to Main Street and holler if you want to tell people something.

" You could go to Main Street and holler ........ "

One of your funniest posts ever Gracie ! I grew up in a town so small that approach to spreading the news would have worked !! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: :bigbow:

tuccillo 01-28-2016 12:02 PM

That may not be entirely true. As I understand the law, you cannot sign away your right to sue for gross negligence. For example, if management failed to address a safety issue that was brought to their attention then that could be interpreted as gross negligence. Perhaps a attorney can jump in and set us right.

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1178586)
If the Rec. Dept. wants members to sign the release every year, they should accost the residents themselves. not ask the club leaders to hassle them. It's not the club's responsibility to do the legal department's job. Clubs have too much to do renewing memberships in January as it is. Besides there is nothing that says you can't use the recreation facilities if you don't sign. In many of the clubs that I belong to, most members refuse to sign it. There is one club that I know of that requires you to sign the release to be a member. I think that's unfair.

By signing it, you give up your rights to blame the district for their negligence.

I vote OVER REACH.

Skip


tomwed 01-28-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1178624)


???????????????? Urbana, though lovely, is small. I think it has around 9000 residents now.. You could go to Main Street and holler if you want to tell people something.

Gracie,,,sooner or later.......................

Average Guy 01-28-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1178624)


???????????????? Urbana, though lovely, is small. I think it has around 9000 residents now.. You could go to Main Street and holler if you want to tell people something.

As I used to say, you know a town is small if you can see the "You Are Now Entering ..." sign and the "You Are Now Leaving..." sign at the same time.


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