Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Village Management doesn’t always agree with The Developer (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/village-management-doesnt-always-agree-developer-181758/)

twoplanekid 02-11-2016 08:39 PM

Village Management doesn’t always agree with The Developer
 
During the meeting tonight at Rohan, Janet Tutt assured the audience that our local government is independent from some of the wishes of the Developer. She stated that the Developer wanted to sell the utilities money stream south of 466A and north of 44 to The Village government. And, the Village government was interested in the purchase. A deal was not made because the Developer wanted too much for the transfer. This was new to me.

Also, our local government would like to purchase the VLS amenity fees revenue stream which the Developer so far is unwilling to sell.

fred53 02-11-2016 09:12 PM

What is your point? You presented the facts as you know them, but then...zip, zero, zilch, nada. This sort of thing is not unusual in the least.

twoplanekid 02-11-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1184636)
What is your point? You presented the facts as you know them, but then...zip, zero, zilch, nada. This sort of thing is not unusual in the least.

Janet Tutt wants us to believe that decisions made by our local government are for our good and not necessary what the Developer wants to happen. She gave these two examples as proof of her statement. I am only relaying what she said to inform others who didn’t attend this meeting. Many still have reservations on the relationship between our local government and the developer. Her two examples of independence seemed to satisfy many in attendance. It’s an important point for many.

goodtimesintv 02-12-2016 12:13 AM

Quote:

Many still have reservations on the relationship between our local government and the developer
.

No concerns here. TV is the best-run city in which we've ever lived, largely because the developers have had vision, are fiscally responsible, and the whole family works for a living here in TV.

Typical politicians running cities are a bad joke and they can't spend constituents into public debt fast enough. It's nice to not have to watch such clown shows running TV into the ground.

rubicon 02-12-2016 06:09 AM

Perhaps?

rubicon 02-12-2016 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1184629)
During the meeting tonight at Rohan, Janet Tutt assured the audience that our local government is independent from some of the wishes of the Developer. She stated that the Developer wanted to sell the utilities money stream south of 466A and north of 44 to The Village government. And, the Village government was interested in the purchase. A deal was not made because the Developer wanted too much for the transfer. This was new to me.

Also, our local government would like to purchase the VLS amenity fees revenue stream which the Developer so far is unwilling to sell.

The Sumter One gang also claims to be an independent group. The nature of our form of government combined with the reality that the Villlages of Lake Sumter, Inc (VLSI) ( Developer) holds the only votes in my mind's eye has the appearance of a conflict of interests. How can you have independence when you have no vote? The VLSI are the biggest fish in this pond we call Sumter County and hence the ruling monarchy . One can only hope it is truly a benevolent monarchy but even as such while monarch's suggest they are really interpreted as commands

graciegirl 02-12-2016 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv (Post 1184662)
.

No concerns here. TV is the best-run city in which we've ever lived, largely because the developers have had vision, are fiscally responsible, and the whole family works for a living here in TV.

Typical politicians running cities are a bad joke and they can't spend constituents into public debt fast enough. It's nice to not have to watch such clown shows running TV into the ground.



I agree. See no reason to try to overthrow our CDD way of running things. In fact if it should happen, we would leave. We do not need a badly run, open to all whims and suggestions, tax draining entity. Left those behind.


If any of you have had any close dealings with homeowners associations you will agree that it is about people who have never run a business, trying to run a business and with rancor and coups thrown in.

ureout 02-12-2016 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1184681)
I agree. See no reason to try to overthrow our local government. In fact if it should happen, we would leave. We do not need a badly run, open to all whims and suggestions, tax draining entity. Left those behind.


If any of you have had any close dealings with homeowners associations you will agree that it is about people who have never run a business, trying to run a business and with rancor and coups thrown in.


Gracie, I have to disagree with you on this one....for many years now the CDD'S and the AAC on the north side of The Villages have done a great job

graciegirl 02-12-2016 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1184685)
Gracie, I have to disagree with you on this one....for many years now the CDD'S and the AAC on the north side of The Villages have done a great job



You misunderstood me kiddo. It is the local CDD's that I am complementing. It IS our local government.


There are some who just can't stand the fact that this amazing place is not a democracy. AND I love our democracy....but I love the way this place is run and has been run for the almost nine years we have paid amenity fees.


I agree with you, ureout. You are in with me.

ureout 02-12-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1184689)
You misunderstood me kiddo. It is the local CDD's that I am complementing. It IS our local government.


There are some who just can't stand the fact that this amazing place is not a democracy. AND I love our democracy....but I love the way this place is run and has been run for the almost nine years we have paid amenity fees.


I agree with you, ureout. You are in with me.


Gracie, I agree with you it is an amazing place to live....but there is a big difference between the N and S south sides....the N has been governed by the Villagers for many years and we have more of a say in decisions... the S side is still governed for the most part by the appointed business owners that work for The Villages...there has been no change over because there are still issues with the IRS that has been going on for years...so far both are working well....we'll see what happens once the S side starts having to buy back all the rec centers and various entities now still ownd by TV

twoplanekid 02-12-2016 08:00 AM

This place is not a democracy? Well, you can attend the VHA meeting on Tuesday Feb. 16th at the Savannah Regional Rec. Center to ask Janet Tutt that very question. I would be interested in her response.

graciegirl 02-12-2016 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1184698)
This place is not a democracy? Well, you can attend the VHA meeting on Tuesday Feb. 16th at the Savannah Regional Rec. Center to ask Janet Tutt that very question. I would be interested in her response.



You can call it whatever you want. It is extremely successful and well run but cannot....CANNOT please everyone. I think a good capitalistic approach if run by good Midwestern folks is to be enjoyed. Why move here and try to change something so very close to perfect? If folks aren't happy they can move somewhere where they can be involved or run for mayor or city council if that is what they like.


Most people who move here want to RETIRE from running things and just sit back and enjoy this very well run place.


But not all. No. Not all.

photo1902 02-12-2016 08:30 AM

Well said
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1184702)
You can call it whatever you want. It is extremely successful and well run but cannot....CANNOT please everyone. I think a good capitalistic approach if run by good Midwestern folks is to be enjoyed. Why move here and try to change something so very close to perfect? If folks aren't happy they can move somewhere where they can be involved or run for mayor or city council if that is what they like.


Most people who move here want to RETIRE from running things and just sit back and enjoy this very well run place.


But not all. No. Not all.

And you are so right. Some complain and want to change things before they even move here and even experience what it's like to live here.

Bogie Shooter 02-12-2016 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 1184698)
This place is not a democracy? Well, you can attend the VHA meeting on Tuesday Feb. 16th at the Savannah Regional Rec. Center to ask Janet Tutt that very question. I would be interested in her response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1184702)
You can call it whatever you want. It is extremely successful and well run but cannot....CANNOT please everyone. I think a good capitalistic approach if run by good Midwestern folks is to be enjoyed. Why move here and try to change something so very close to perfect? If folks aren't happy they can move somewhere where they can be involved or run for mayor or city council if that is what they like.


Most people who move here want to RETIRE from running things and just sit back and enjoy this very well run place.


But not all. No. Not all.

I agree with gracie.
Why all the pot stirring, OP does this from time to time and continues to bring up topics that have been hashed and rehashed.

Allegiance 02-12-2016 09:25 AM

We get an amazing amount of value for 145$ a month.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.