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Guest 03-14-2016 12:26 PM

Trump does NOT encourage violence...
 
at his rally, but okays the use of force of anyone trying to stop the use of free speech.

Moron who stated otherwise seems to completely ignore the violence caused by his political brothers and sisters who tried(and partially succeeded)to halt Trump's right of free speech. Hypocrites!!!! Oddly enough the only violence in these elections are caused by the so called liberals who feel the only people who have a right to free speech are those that believe in their cause. The parallel is strangely like the nazi's in Germany.

Guest 03-14-2016 12:47 PM

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at his rally, but okays the use of force of anyone trying to stop the use of free speech.

Moron who stated otherwise seems to completely ignore the violence caused by his political brothers and sisters who tried(and partially succeeded)to halt Trump's right of free speech. Hypocrites!!!! Oddly enough the only violence in these elections are caused by the so called liberals who feel the only people who have a right to free speech are those that believe in their cause. The parallel is strangely like the nazi's in Germany.

You seem to have that backwards. You cannot hell bomb on an airplane or at an airport. Free speech is limited in many contexts. Donald Trump has set a tone of encouraging violence against protesters. He has done this for a while now. He is no Nazi nor are his opponents but he is responsible for some of the violence done by his supporters at his various rallies.

Guest 03-14-2016 12:58 PM

so when to paid protestors/opposition come in with the express intent to interupt a rally or cause communicating problems they are not infringing on other peoples rights according to your perspective......WRONG!

And if in the heat of the disruption the protestors get physical? Do you expect those being affected to just stand idly by and allow it? Of course not.

If you were there and somebody pushed or knocked you or yur wife down what would you do?
Check to see whether they were R or D?

The protestors are in the wrong.
So why the :swear: do some of you act so :censored: stupid in their defense.

You are not invested or involved. All you have to do is follow the talking points directive while other Americans are being injured and defending the antagonistic thugs.

Guest 03-14-2016 01:49 PM

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You seem to have that backwards. You cannot hell bomb on an airplane or at an airport. Free speech is limited in many contexts. Donald Trump has set a tone of encouraging violence against protesters. He has done this for a while now. He is no Nazi nor are his opponents but he is responsible for some of the violence done by his supporters at his various rallies.

How can you say one thing and then be SO naive in the rest of your comment? Free Speech does not mean that you can demonstrate on private property. Trump has every right to hold a rally without opposition disrupting it. When he is renting/paying for the venue, the radicals have to stay outside and can protest to their hearts content, but not inside. They are disturbing the peace and can be arrested. They have NO RIGHT to demonstrate at his rallies.

Trump is NOT responsible for someone else's actions. He is not responsible for violence unless he is paying someone to be violent. Even if he suggests violence, he is not responsible. These people are adults. They are responsible for themselves. I love the way you liberals turn it around. If a thug robs a store and gets shot, it is not the thug's fault, it's the police officer that shot him. If a demonstrator gets violent, it's Trump's fault. Only in a liberal mindset.

Guest 03-14-2016 01:50 PM

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so when to paid protestors/opposition come in with the express intent to interupt a rally or cause communicating problems they are not infringing on other peoples rights according to your perspective......WRONG!

And if in the heat of the disruption the protestors get physical? Do you expect those being affected to just stand idly by and allow it? Of course not.

If you were there and somebody pushed or knocked you or yur wife down what would you do?
Check to see whether they were R or D?

The protestors are in the wrong.
So why the :swear: do some of you act so :censored: stupid in their defense.

You are not invested or involved. All you have to do is follow the talking points directive while other Americans are being injured and defending the antagonistic thugs.

Do you have any proof that the protesters were paid? I'm think not. But then again what republican ever need proof. It's easier to just believe what you want to believe.

Go take a nap Archie Bunker.

Guest 03-14-2016 06:08 PM

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How can you say one thing and then be SO naive in the rest of your comment?
Trump is NOT responsible for someone else's actions. He is not responsible for violence unless he is paying someone to be violent. Even if he suggests violence, he is not responsible.

How can you be so naïve about the law? There are laws against inciting violence, calling for the overthrow of the government and many other forms of speech. It has absolutely nothing to do with payment or non-payment. If I tell you to beat someone up and I will pay your legal bills, that is potentially a criminal act.

Under federal law, a riot is a public disturbance involving an act of violence by one or more persons assembled in a group of at least three people. Inciting a riot applies to a person who organizes, encourages, or participates in a riot. It can apply to one who urges or instigates others to riot. According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.”
If Trump's language is not criminal it is completely against any idea of civilization or discourse. The right to protest is central to our nation.

See Tea Party protests as an example. And no one was punched and no candidate or elected official suggested it as a strategy. But here was on tea party group's memo
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tea partiers should "pack the hall... spread out" to make their numbers seem more significant, and to "rock-the-boat early in the Rep's presentation...to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early.... to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda...stand up and shout and sit right back down."
So do you care to revise your opinion about payment being an element of the crime? Do you wish to revise your opinion about this being a left wing tactic? Of course not.

Guest 03-14-2016 06:13 PM

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Do you have any proof that the protesters were paid? I'm think not. But then again what republican ever need proof. It's easier to just believe what you want to believe.

Go take a nap Archie Bunker.

Never a discssion. Always in your face, insults and snide remarks.
Never having to do with the discussion.
Always having to do with hell raising instead of discussing.

And always ending with some sort of dated insulting. Which is the usual defining statement of the limitation of the poster.

Guest 03-14-2016 08:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1198519)
How can you say one thing and then be SO naive in the rest of your comment? Free Speech does not mean that you can demonstrate on private property. Trump has every right to hold a rally without opposition disrupting it. When he is renting/paying for the venue, the radicals have to stay outside and can protest to their hearts content, but not inside. They are disturbing the peace and can be arrested. They have NO RIGHT to demonstrate at his rallies.

Trump is NOT responsible for someone else's actions. He is not responsible for violence unless he is paying someone to be violent. Even if he suggests violence, he is not responsible. These people are adults. They are responsible for themselves. I love the way you liberals turn it around. If a thug robs a store and gets shot, it is not the thug's fault, it's the police officer that shot him. If a demonstrator gets violent, it's Trump's fault. Only in a liberal mindset.

You want to talk about naïve. Read this from a Republican.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-chicago-scam/

Following the rally’s cancellation, Trump supporters expressed surprise at the number of protesters that were filling the lines and streaming into the event on a campus that is 25 percent Hispanic, 25 percent Asian and 8 percent black. William Daley, son of former Chicago mayor Richard J. Daley, did not share that surprise. “Whoever picked that location knew what they were doing as far as poking that sleeping dog there,”

Anyone with common sense could foresee what would happen Friday night. One would to assume Trump has common sense. Trump got the desired results that he was looking for by choosing that campus location for his rally.

It is worse than that. The turmoil started after Trump cancelled the rally. Everyone inside the rally was behaving before the cancellation. Trump is playing his own supporters like a fiddle.

Guest 03-14-2016 09:05 PM

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Never a discssion. Always in your face, insults and snide remarks.
Never having to do with the discussion.
Always having to do with hell raising instead of discussing.

And always ending with some sort of dated insulting. Which is the usual defining statement of the limitation of the poster.

I'll take that as a NO. You don't have proof. Gosh, who would have thunk it.

Guest 03-14-2016 09:17 PM

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You want to talk about naïve. Read this from a Republican.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-chicago-scam/

Following the rally’s cancellation, Trump supporters expressed surprise at the number of protesters that were filling the lines and streaming into the event on a campus that is 25 percent Hispanic, 25 percent Asian and 8 percent black. William Daley, son of former Chicago mayor Richard J. Daley, did not share that surprise. “Whoever picked that location knew what they were doing as far as poking that sleeping dog there,”

Anyone with common sense could foresee what would happen Friday night. One would to assume Trump has common sense. Trump got the desired results that he was looking for by choosing that campus location for his rally.

It is worse than that. The turmoil started after Trump cancelled the rally. Everyone inside the rally was behaving before the cancellation. Trump is playing his own supporters like a fiddle.

Wow! How diabolical would that be to lure your supporters into an ambush just to make a point and take the night off. What I find suspicious is that Sanders seems to have a lot of support in that area and not Hillary. Some demonstrators are strictly anti-Trump and some are pro Sanders anti-Trump.

Unless I missed something.

Guest 03-14-2016 10:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1198521)
Do you have any proof that the protesters were paid? I'm think not. But then again what republican ever need proof. It's easier to just believe what you want to believe.

Go take a nap Archie Bunker.


Of course their is no proof. Remember this is a party who is going to nominate a guy who still to this day says Obama was not born in Hawaii.

Guest 03-15-2016 06:31 AM

Trump cannot be charged with inciting a riot. You libtards exaggerate everything out of proportion. These instigators have entered a private rally with the INTENT to disrupt it. That is against most state laws. They have no right to Free Speech inside a private venue, period. To say Trump is responsible for the actions of idiot adults that have the intention of disruption, is like saying a girl is responsible for her rape by what she wears, or a person that leaves packages in his car is responsible for someone breaking into that car to steal from it. Only a libtard would suggest that Trump is responsible for the actions of other adults. And I have every right to clock someone that gets in my face, my personal space. Trump's people have escorted these perpetrators out of the building, and there has not been anyone hurt yet. As far as I am concerned, if a person enters the rally with the intent to disrupt it, then he is taking his chances at possibly getting injured. Same as with the police. If you resist arrest, you take a chance of getting clocked. If you libtards can't understand that, then you are retarded. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from injury on private property, especially when you are not invited.

Guest 03-15-2016 06:34 AM

I bet if a KKK member entered a NAACP meeting wearing a white robe and hood, liberals wouldn't have a problem if he was handled roughly.

Guest 03-15-2016 06:51 AM

I want to hear what Trump has to say. The more he says the better we will get to know him. It's not like we have years of political experience to examine.

I also wish the disrupters would assemble outside.

Guest 03-15-2016 07:46 AM

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I want to hear what Trump has to say. The more he says the better we will get to know him. It's not like we have years of political experience to examine.

I also wish the disrupters would assemble outside.

Good post....:thumbup:


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