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diskman 02-02-2009 07:54 PM

looking on mls 32159, shocked to see many
 
looking on mls 32159, shocked to see many foreclosure listings for the villages!

Makes me feel like my plan is only way to go "NO MORTGAGE"
if you can't pay cash retirement here may not be for you!:shrug::ohdear:barf:rant-rave:

Laker14 02-02-2009 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by diskman (Post 186638)
looking on mls 32159, shocked to see many foreclosure listings for the villages!

Makes me feel like my plan is only way to go "NO MORTGAGE"
if you can't pay cash retirement here may not be for you!:shrug::ohdear:barf:rant-rave:

I'm not so sure about that.
We don't know the circumstances of those foreclosures...I have heard that during the big bubble build up, TV was fertile ground for house "flipping."

What do you think happened to those homes that were in the process of being flipped when the bubble burst? The speculators just walked away.

Anyone contemplating retirement anywhere should be crunching numbers making as certain as they can be that there expenses will be covered by income, factoring in the big??? of inflation and health care. If some of those expenses are mortgage payments, and they can be made, that works.

NOT paying a mortgage would take a lot of scariness out of it, for sure, though.

samhass 02-02-2009 11:21 PM

I was told that if a contractor or subcontractor is not paid, they can slap a lien on your house and it goes to foreclosure. This has happened to a friend that paid a contractor in full but the contractor went out of business and did not pay the subcontractor. The sub came after my friend. It is so outrageous that this could happen.

Muncle 02-03-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by diskman (Post 186638)
looking on mls 32159, shocked to see many foreclosure listings for the villages!

Makes me feel like my plan is only way to go "NO MORTGAGE"
if you can't pay cash retirement here may not be for you!:shrug::ohdear:barf:rant-rave:

How many foreclosures are listed in TV? And is there any way to determine in what stage the foreclosure is?

Sam --- likely ignorance on my part, but isn't title insurance supposed to protect a buyer from a mechanics lien on a new property?

graciegirl 02-03-2009 07:41 AM

Munc. Sam must be talking about a contractor hired by the homeowner to add on or add pool etc.

poromo 02-03-2009 08:06 AM

Could you please explain how I can view the foreclosed homes in mls 32159.

Russ_Boston 02-03-2009 08:16 AM

Try this link: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/class...e/foreclosure/

Put in whatever zip you'd like.

coach 02-03-2009 09:09 AM

I know I defend the Villages almost to a fault, but when I put in zip code 32162, I get no foreclosures and zip 32159 produces only 5 in The Villages. The other listings are outside TV in other areas.

So five properties out of 30,000 or more is pretty low

samhass 02-03-2009 09:37 AM

Gracie nailed it. It was a pool company. T and D did my pool and they are the only ones I would use here in TV. This is not an ad for them. This is a CYA for the homeowner. The old penny wise, pound foolish needs to be heeded in some cases.

Boomer 02-03-2009 09:54 AM

Do general contractors for large projects in TV present affidavits to the homeowner showing payment of subs and suppliers?

Boomer

samhass 02-03-2009 10:21 AM

I don't know, Boomer. I do know that I will now require proof from a contractor that all subs are paid. Maybe a notorized doc attesting all subs are paid in full might help, but who knows. I would want to know every sub on the job and make some calls before final payment is made.

texasfal 02-03-2009 10:33 AM

A friend of ours who lives in Woodbury just got his house foreclosed by Suntrust. His wife has cancer and is dying and the doctors bills keep adding up. He tried to juggle both and finally stopped paying his mortgage. Four months later, he's looking for an apartment in Tampa to be closer to Moffitt. So very sad.

Boomer 02-03-2009 10:49 AM

I wonder if as the operating strings get shorter in some cases if there will be general contractors who are willing to arrange for the homeowner to pay the subs and suppliers directly and to pay the general contractor separately for overseeing the job. As the market changes everywhere, it can pay to be even more cautious than ever before.

While title insurance is designed to protect the home as it is at purchase for the cost at purchase, anything afterward could be subject to a lien if the blanks are not all filled in.

I have read here on TOTV that the foreclosures there may be due to speculators caught before they could flip. I would bet that is right in most cases there. And it does not sound like there were a lot of speculators like there were in other parts of the country.

I would be sure to make sure that title was insured on a foreclosure purchase. Who knows how far out a speculator may have leveraged.(Well, for me, I would insure the title of any purchase, but that's just me.)

In the old days title insurance where I live was looked at differently from the way it is now. For those who are curious about title insurance, there is a lot of stuff in the archives here on TOTV. A search should turn up the debate.

Boomer

KathieI 02-03-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by coach (Post 186706)
I know I defend the Villages almost to a fault, but when I put in zip code 32162, I get no foreclosures and zip 32159 produces only 5 in The Villages. The other listings are outside TV in other areas.

So five properties out of 30,000 or more is pretty low

Coach, I just put The Villages in and I got a lot of them, haven't looked at all them yet, try that.

"
A friend of ours who lives in Woodbury just got his house foreclosed by Suntrust. His wife has cancer and is dying and the doctors bills keep adding up. He tried to juggle both and finally stopped paying his mortgage. Four months later, he's looking for an apartment in Tampa to be closer to Moffitt. So very sad."

Texas, this is very sad. Is there anything we could do to help your friend? Maybe this should go into Helping Hands????



samhass 02-03-2009 11:44 AM

Kath, if this person is really behind the 8 ball and did not get in trouble for living beyond his means, maybe you (being a wonderful organizer) could go to the Sun and start a fundraiser to help this man. We are many.


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