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AlZimmerman58 07-08-2016 08:18 AM

Remember Adamo Czerner? Court can't find him
 
Remember Adamo Czerner? He and is partner, Zenon Szynkler were arrested Feb. 5 on charges of burglary and larceny from a home in the Village of Winifred. His bond initially was set at $77,000. At the time of his arrest, he presented a Polish passport as his means of identification and also listed a Chicago address. Anyhow, the judge, William Hallman reduced his bail to $5k and he walked on April 16th. His next court date was to have been May 16th but if you go to the Sumter County Clerk of Courts and look his case up, you find several entries over the past months of "DEFENDANTS NOTICE FOR COURT RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE". So his court case never did continue as they can't find him. I guess the county is $5k richer.

Chatbrat 07-08-2016 08:54 AM

Try & find a gypsy or a traveler--they're pros on disappearing

jtdraig 07-09-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1251219)
Try & find a gypsy or a traveler--they're pros on disappearing

Very true......

graciegirl 07-09-2016 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1251219)
Try & find a gypsy or a traveler--they're pros on disappearing

I so agree. That judge was very naïve.

dbussone 07-09-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1251851)
I so agree. That judge was very naïve.



I'm not sure "naive" is the word I would use Gracie. I think you're being too kind.


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redwitch 07-09-2016 04:54 PM

I think the judge was pretty smart --

He had to know Czerner would run thirty seconds after being released, which means no more crimes in this area by him. So, no court costs for the County for convicting this creep nor public defender costs. Also, no housing in jail and/or prison (at least $32,000 a year) costs. In return, the County got $5,000. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Mikeod 07-09-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1251917)
I think the judge was pretty smart --

He had to know Czerner would run thirty seconds after being released, which means no more crimes in this area by him. So, no court costs for the County for convicting this creep nor public defender costs. Also, no housing in jail and/or prison (at least $32,000 a year) costs. In return, the County got $5,000. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Except that Czerner is still free to continue the scam in another area and the small cost of bail is well covered by the money taken from other victims. And I don't think the judge should be considering income for the county instead of meting out appropriate punishment for the offenses committed. In essence, the low bail enables the perpetrator to continue to prey on more people.

graciegirl 07-09-2016 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeod (Post 1251929)
Except that Czerner is still free to continue the scam in another area and the small cost of bail is well covered by the money taken from other victims. And I don't think the judge should be considering income for the county instead of meting out appropriate punishment for the offenses committed. In essence, the low bail enables the perpetrator to continue to prey on more people.

That's how it looks to me.

redwitch 07-09-2016 08:30 PM

No argument here that this guy will continue being a thief elsewhere. However, the crime does not warrant a high bail in these parts. That's reserved for things like public lewdness, apparently. While a judge shouldn't factor costs to a county, I think it is nigh impossible for them not to. They're human.

JGVillages 07-09-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1251917)
I think the judge was pretty smart --

He had to know Czerner would run thirty seconds after being released, which means no more crimes in this area by him. So, no court costs for the County for convicting this creep nor public defender costs. Also, no housing in jail and/or prison (at least $32,000 a year) costs. In return, the County got $5,000. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Unfortunately he is off to commit crimes elsewhere. Wouldn't be surprised to find out he skipped from somewhere else before coming here. Should have kept the bond value at $77000 then we could put this scumbag away. I know naysayers will say that we don't have enough room in our prisons for all these felons, but as we have seen, releasing alien felons that keep coming back to commit crimes and murder doesn't work either. Our police departments are understaffed for many reasons, a couple being lousy pay and recent racial tensions. Not good formulas for a law abiding society.

Mikeod 07-10-2016 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1251976)
No argument here that this guy will continue being a thief elsewhere. However, the crime does not warrant a high bail in these parts. That's reserved for things like public lewdness, apparently. While a judge shouldn't factor costs to a county, I think it is nigh impossible for them not to. They're human.

Red, I understand, but I believe bail is a process to allow the accused to leave custody while assuring they will return for the trial. In cases where there is reasonable belief the accused will flee, bail can, and should, be denied. In this case, with a foreign passport used as ID, perhaps bail should have been denied. Maybe there are legal parameters that prohibit denying bail in certain offenses.


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