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Guest 08-17-2016 04:51 PM

Medicare for ALL.
 
Obamacare is collapsing. Insurers pulling out. Cost is astronomical. .......Clinton needs Sanders supporters....Sanders wants everyone on Medicare. 2+2= 4....if you are not satisfied with your Medicare now perhaps it will be better for you when you share it with children of illegal aliens and everyone else....except Congress that is....Elect Clintons and you will find out.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:01 PM

Medicare for all---sounds good on the surface, but....

The plan is going bankrupt with just seniors, imagine the deficit if everyone was included. Your FICA withholding would dwarf your income tax!!!!

Guest 08-17-2016 05:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273522)
Obamacare is collapsing. Insurers pulling out. Cost is astronomical. .......Clinton needs Sanders supporters....Sanders wants everyone on Medicare. 2+2= 4....if you are not satisfied with your Medicare now perhaps it will be better for you when you share it with children of illegal aliens and everyone else....except Congress that is....Elect Clintons and you will find out.

I think that the richest country in the world should provide healthcare and education for all. it is just not right to agree that only rich successful people should be able to afford both.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273527)
Medicare for all---sounds good on the surface, but....

The plan is going bankrupt with just seniors, imagine the deficit if everyone was included. Your FICA withholding would dwarf your income tax!!!!

it is far from bankrupt.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:39 PM

Medicare is the crappiest program we have. What a disgrace! You pay for it for 45 years or more before you can use it, and then it only covers hospitalization. Nothing else.. That's got to be a crime.

Guest 08-17-2016 05:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273537)
I think that the richest country in the world should provide healthcare and education for all. it is just not right to agree that only rich successful people should be able to afford both.

The richest country in the world is now trillions in debt.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273538)
it is far from bankrupt.

You are wrong it is bankrupt unless you call adding cost to deficit for our grand children to pay. In that case it is OK.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273537)
I think that the richest country in the world should provide healthcare and education for all. it is just not right to agree that only rich successful people should be able to afford both.

Makes a point I guess. Even though it is far, far from the point.

Think about what was stated above. Only the rich can afford to have health care and get an education. Really.

Must be a talking point issued that requires no thought before using.

It is just common sense and in actuality INCORRECT!!!!!

Guest 08-17-2016 06:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273555)
Medicare is the crappiest program we have. What a disgrace! You pay for it for 45 years or more before you can use it, and then it only covers hospitalization. Nothing else.. That's got to be a crime.

I would gladly pay you back every cent you paid in to Medicare if I could have what Medicare is going to spend on you until you reach room temperature. That is the real problem with Medicare.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273575)
I would gladly pay you back every cent you paid in to Medicare if I could have what Medicare is going to spend on you until you reach room temperature. That is the real problem with Medicare.

Medicare has not spent a dime on me yet. I have full coverage private insurance. Medicare is a waste and if I could I wouldn't have paid into it.

Obama wanted a single payer system and thanks to Obamacare, it looks like he will see it. Believe me when I say that we do NOT want socialized medicine. I have been to and lived in many countries and have seen the nightmares. In those type of countries, only the rich make out in health care.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273555)
Medicare is the crappiest program we have. What a disgrace! You pay for it for 45 years or more before you can use it, and then it only covers hospitalization. Nothing else.. That's got to be a crime.

Wow! Where the :censored: do you live?
You are either completely uninformed.
Or too young to have medicare yet and have no idea what you are talking about.
Your statement of "...nothing else..." is totally incorrect.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273575)
I would gladly pay you back every cent you paid in to Medicare if I could have what Medicare is going to spend on you until you reach room temperature. That is the real problem with Medicare.

I'll take that deal. But before you agree, realize I've paid about 300K into it, which invested at the average market return of 8% would double every 9 years. So take the midpoint, 150K, and multiply by 16 for a total return of 2.4 million. Since Medicare pays 80% of approved charges, that's an even 3 million in charges. Still want to make the deal??????

Guest 08-17-2016 06:47 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273555)
Medicare is the crappiest program we have. What a disgrace! You pay for it for 45 years or more before you can use it, and then it only covers hospitalization. Nothing else.. That's got to be a crime.

You pay a pittance compare to what you get. Medicare part A is hospitalization, part B is doctors, part D is prescriptions started in 2008. Just how many in nursing homes on welfare, vegetables, yet given a mirad of tests.

Guest 08-17-2016 06:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273605)
You pay a pittance compare to what you get. Medicare part A is hospitalization, part B is doctors, part D is prescriptions started in 2008. Just how many in nursing homes on welfare, vegetables, yet given a mirad of tests.

Depends on the number of lawyers within 5 miles of the nursing home

Guest 08-17-2016 06:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1273582)
Wow! Where the :censored: do you live?
You are either completely uninformed.
Or too young to have medicare yet and have no idea what you are talking about.
Your statement of "...nothing else..." is totally incorrect.

Nope, I have Medicare and I have researched it enough to know what I have and don't have. I bet you a dollar to a donut that you don't if you are in disagreement with my statement. Go ahead and look up Medicare "A" coverage, because that is ALL you get for all those years you invested in it. Medicare "b, c, d, etc" are all supplements that you pay extra for AFTER you reach Medicare eligibility, if you desire to pay for it. And what is really interesting is that you basically have to tell them that you do not wish them to take out $105 per month from your social security to pay for Medicare B. Check it out on their website if you don't believe me. I have medicare "A" and it doesn't pay for much else except hospitalization. No doctor visits, no prescriptions, etc. So, am I wrong?

I pay close to a grand per month for private health insurance for my wife an I. Medicare A is redundant. If I had nothing else but Medicare A, it still wouldn't be enough and I would have to allow them to take funds from my social security to pay for Medicare B and D.


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