Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Strange fenced perfect circle (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/strange-fenced-perfect-circle-209752/)

outlaw 09-13-2016 08:21 AM

Strange fenced perfect circle
 
After a round of golf on Walnut grove (way north of 466), I google mapped what appeared to be a fenced preserve. To my surprise, it appeared from "above" as a large perfectly circular fenced area. I noticed some new marking flags out there, which was why I became interested. Does anyone have any idea what this land is for. I thought it was just another preserve, but now I think it may be connected to a sinkhole/depression from the past. It doesn't appear to have significant elevation change, but the circular shape just doesn't make sense for a typical preserve.

graciegirl 09-13-2016 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1287999)
After a round of golf on Walnut grove (way north of 466), I google mapped what appeared to be a fenced preserve. To my surprise, it appeared from "above" as a large perfectly circular fenced area. I noticed some new marking flags out there, which was why I became interested. Does anyone have any idea what this land is for. I thought it was just another preserve, but now I think it may be connected to a sinkhole/depression from the past. It doesn't appear to have significant elevation change, but the circular shape just doesn't make sense for a typical preserve.

The flags might indicate a protected species underground.. Gopher Tortoise? They flag their burrows on golf courses.

Gopher tortoise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mleeja 09-13-2016 09:14 AM

Did you look up to see if there were high power lines running across this area? If one follows the power lines they will see the area below is usually part of a golf course or a nature preserve. There are high power lines running through this area.

outlaw 09-13-2016 09:49 AM

Look on google map. It is very obviously a perfect (as perfect can be) circle. Fenced with the TV brown fencing. One doesn't notice this from the ground. No power lines. And anyway, power towers result in a long narrow pathway. Not a circle of this size. I first thought a wildlife preserve for tortoises; mounds with holes with marker sticks throughout the field. But that doesn't explain the circle. Not ancient aliens, either. I have looked at virtually all of TV, and cannot recall another preserve/field shaped like this. There are fenced horse training areas that have specific shapes, but this isn't one of those. Copy paste: Google Maps

Ecuadog 09-13-2016 10:24 AM

It's the Lindsey Morse Mathews Kestrel Preserve and has been previously discussed.

graciegirl 09-13-2016 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1287999)
After a round of golf on Walnut grove (way north of 466), I google mapped what appeared to be a fenced preserve. To my surprise, it appeared from "above" as a large perfectly circular fenced area. I noticed some new marking flags out there, which was why I became interested. Does anyone have any idea what this land is for. I thought it was just another preserve, but now I think it may be connected to a sinkhole/depression from the past. It doesn't appear to have significant elevation change, but the circular shape just doesn't make sense for a typical preserve.

I would never think to connect it to a sinkhole. We are all so different.

When Jim McLaughlin was showing us some resales about five years ago we saw an area behind one of the homes in that general area, that had a large circular fenced in area and a set of steps that seemed to be a viewing area. I knew it was Morse land and we thought it was a horse track of some kind.

The flags could be Turtle mounds even if that is so.

ColdNoMore 09-13-2016 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 1288059)
It's the Lindsey Morse Mathews Kestrel Preserve and has been previously discussed.

Thanks for the quick explanation and link. :thumbup:

outlaw 09-13-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 1288059)
It's the Lindsey Morse Mathews Kestrel Preserve and has been previously discussed.

Thanks, but that thread was 90% "flippant comments", and never addressed the why for the circle. Why the circle is the question.

outlaw 09-13-2016 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1288074)
I would never think to connect it to a sinkhole. We are all so different.

When Jim McLaughlin was showing us some resales about five years ago we saw an area behind one of the homes in that general area, that had a large circular fenced in area and a set of steps that seemed to be a viewing area. I knew it was Morse land and we thought it was a horse track of some kind.

The flags could be Turtle mounds even if that is so.

Yes we are! Eyes wide open; eyes wide shut.

graciegirl 09-13-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1288200)
Yes we are! Eyes wide open; eyes wide shut.

I cannot think of any logical reason that a "depression sinkhole from the past" would be inside of a perfect circle somewhere. Why would it need to be marked? Why in a circle? Once a sinkhole sinks it sinks......

I am a pretty good worrier, but I have explored every possibility and it doesn't seem likely that is what it is.

Can you link us to some information to support your theory?

outlaw 09-15-2016 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1288305)
I cannot think of any logical reason that a "depression sinkhole from the past" would be inside of a perfect circle somewhere. Why would it need to be marked? Why in a circle? Once a sinkhole sinks it sinks......

I am a pretty good worrier, but I have explored every possibility and it doesn't seem likely that is what it is.

Can you link us to some information to support your theory?

Do this: look at all the TV preserves and fenced areas. see if any even approach a perfect circle. This is the only perfect circle I can find in TV. It abuts a straight road and three golf course holes. None of these would dictate a circular fence construction. I admit I am curious. If you and others are not, that's fine. But my curiosity does not imply some devious intent by the developer nor some ulterior motive on my part. I recall several Florida lakes that were said to have been formed by sinkholes. These lakes had a very circular boundary to them. I'm not saying that all circular lakes are former sinkholes. But I think that is a characteristic of many lakes formed by sinkholes. So, this circular sinkhole formation is common. the only difference is that this particular one doesn't have water because there is no clay/barrier to keep the water from draining. Fill dirt could have been used to level the ground, then turned into a preserve.

"Many ponds and lakes in Florida are a result of sinkhole formation. The characteristics of a sinkhole lake can give clues as to how it was formed. A circular lake indicates that the lake evolved from a collapse sinkhole. A shallow circular lake results from impermeable sediments washing into a subsidence sinkhole. If a lake rests above groundwater level, it is above a confining bed."
"On the surface, sinkholes may develop progressively as subtle, bowl-shaped depressions"

juneroses 09-15-2016 11:29 AM

This doesn't answer any questions, but I notice they are installing new fencing on the perimeter of at least part of the circle.

CWGUY 09-15-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1289189)
Do this: look at all the TV preserves and fenced areas. see if any even approach a perfect circle. This is the only perfect circle I can find in TV. It abuts a straight road and three golf course holes. None of these would dictate a circular fence construction. I admit I am curious. If you and others are not, that's fine. But my curiosity does not imply some devious intent by the developer nor some ulterior motive on my part. I recall several Florida lakes that were said to have been formed by sinkholes. These lakes had a very circular boundary to them. I'm not saying that all circular lakes are former sinkholes. But I think that is a characteristic of many lakes formed by sinkholes. So, this circular sinkhole formation is common. the only difference is that this particular one doesn't have water because there is no clay/barrier to keep the water from draining. Fill dirt could have been used to level the ground, then turned into a preserve.

"Many ponds and lakes in Florida are a result of sinkhole formation. The characteristics of a sinkhole lake can give clues as to how it was formed. A circular lake indicates that the lake evolved from a collapse sinkhole. A shallow circular lake results from impermeable sediments washing into a subsidence sinkhole. If a lake rests above groundwater level, it is above a confining bed."
"On the surface, sinkholes may develop progressively as subtle, bowl-shaped depressions"

The Liberty Park Eagle Preserve looks like it is made up of several different parcels of land, one of which is a circle. Have to look on Sumter Co. GIS map to see it. Just south of the Sunset Point Gate.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.