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ugotme 10-04-2016 03:46 PM

Morse bridge
 
Perhaps I have not done enough reading on this matter.use

Since most Villagers use this bridge at one time or another, why isn't the cost of repairs (updates) being absorbed by ALL Villagers.

Does this have something to do with it being in a certain County?

theorem painter 10-04-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 1300955)
Since most Villagers use this bridge at one time or another, why isn't the cost of repairs (updates) being absorbed by ALL Villagers.

My question is since it's a county road why isn't the cost of repairs being paid for by the county.

Bogie Shooter 10-04-2016 04:16 PM

That other news site has some of your answers.

ureout 10-04-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 1300955)
Perhaps I have not done enough reading on this matter.use

Since most Villagers use this bridge at one time or another, why isn't the cost of repairs (updates) being absorbed by ALL Villagers.

Does this have something to do with it being in a certain County?


funny things that happen when communities are built... I live in Marion Co. village of Springdale for over 14yrs....a couple years after buying my home I found out that all of Marion Co. Village residents are responsible for maintenance and repair on ALL of our roads except Buena Vista...even though all villagers and outside traffic can use them...apparently when the developer made the deal with Marion Co. years ago to build homes here it was with the understanding that the county would not accept the roads in there maintenance budget ....hmmm I do not remember being told that by the sales dept. so the outcome is that district 4 has set up a special fund for our road repairs...that "we" pay into

njbchbum 10-04-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1300983)
My question is since it's a county road why isn't the cost of repairs being paid for by the county.

From what I have read it is because the road and bridge are not the problem. The land on which the structure is built is failing - and that land is owned by the area districts rather than all of the districts.

ureout 10-04-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1301011)
From what I have read it is because the road and bridge are not the problem. The land on which the structure is built is failing - and that land is owned by the area districts rather than all of the districts.

this bridge/road was built was over a marshy/bog area, who was the engineering firm that hired to do core samples of the soil? I would think they would hold some responsibility

Topspinmo 10-04-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 1300955)
Perhaps I have not done enough reading on this matter.use

Since most Villagers use this bridge at one time or another, why isn't the cost of repairs (updates) being absorbed by ALL Villagers.

Does this have something to do with it being in a certain County?

No, it's not use by All villagers. I live in district 4 and only been over that bridge 2 times and that was just for site seeing.

If I go to Spanish springs I don't go over it cause it out of the way. If I go south villages it out of my way also cause I go straight down BV. If I go to S. landing it's still out of my way due to straight down BV.

Topspinmo 10-04-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1301010)
funny things that happen when communities are built... I live in Marion Co. village of Springdale for over 14yrs....a couple years after buying my home I found out that all of Marion Co. Village residents are responsible for maintenance and repair on ALL of our roads except Buena Vista...even though all villagers and outside traffic can use them...apparently when the developer made the deal with Marion Co. years ago to build homes here it was with the understanding that the county would not accept the roads in there maintenance budget ....hmmm I do not remember being told that by the sales dept. so the outcome is that district 4 has set up a special fund for our road repairs...that "we" pay into

District 4 must have contract with lady lake? Cause when water leak was repaired in the street lakes lake city workers patched it and they done excellent job. Smooth as glass, can't be even feel it when golf cart goes over it.

theorem painter 10-04-2016 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1301018)
this bridge/road was built was over a marshy/bog area, who was the engineering firm that hired to do core samples of the soil? I would think they would hold some responsibility

I believe it is the same engineering firm that came up with the options to fix the bridge.

njbchbum 10-04-2016 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1301018)
this bridge/road was built was over a marshy/bog area, who was the engineering firm that hired to do core samples of the soil? I would think they would hold some responsibility

Don't know the history back to that point. Would have to guess at what the work specs and contract liabilities - if any - were specified.

Bridge is but 12 years old - papers should be in someone's office; but I have not read of anyone taking the initiative to go and find them.

Bjeanj 10-04-2016 06:57 PM

In Dec 2010, there was a thread on TOTV titled "bridge sinking????"

Interesting.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ghlight=Bridge

ureout 10-04-2016 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1301027)
District 4 must have contract with lady lake? Cause when water leak was repaired in the street lakes lake city workers patched it and they done excellent job. Smooth as glass, can't be even feel it when golf cart goes over it.


lady lake isn't in marion co....and yes I would think if we have a problem with a utility that they would do the repairs....I was talking about normal wear of the roads

chuckinca 10-04-2016 07:32 PM

If it is a marshy/boggy area, wonder why the engineer didn't require piles to support it?

Does the fix require piles to fix it?

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Jim 9922 10-04-2016 08:01 PM

It is not the road that is failing. It is the pile of sandy soil and rocks the developer dumped next to the road to make a "park" in the middle of the lake that the developer's entities "owns". The "lake" was dredged out deepening an old peat bog that was being mined (or had been) when the developer originally bought it.
What is really sad is that the CDD's can't wait to spend $1.4 million to save a few trees from falling into the developer's lake but have so far avoided trying to correct the very dangerous golf cart crossover in front of the Hy 466 and Morse gate. All carts traveling South to the Hy 466 tunnel must negotiate the "Russian Roulette Crossover" first entering and crossing 2 lanes of southbound cars and then crossing 2 lanes of northbound traffic traveling thru the gates as fast as the gatekeepers can keep the gates open.
Originally a bad design just waiting for a fatal accident to happen. But CDD believes saving a few trees and a sun watchers' parking lot more important.

DonH57 10-04-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1301089)
It is not the road that is failing. It is the pile of sandy soil and rocks the developer dumped next to the road to make a "park" in the middle of the lake that the developer's entities "owns". The "lake" was dredged out deepening an old peat bog that was being mined (or had been) when the developer originally bought it.
What is really sad is that the CDD's can't wait to spend $1.4 million to save a few trees from falling into the developer's lake but have so far avoided trying to correct the very dangerous golf cart crossover in front of the Hy 466 and Morse gate. All carts traveling South to the Hy 466 tunnel must negotiate the "Russian Roulette Crossover" first entering and crossing 2 lanes of southbound cars and then crossing 2 lanes of northbound traffic traveling thru the gates as fast as the gatekeepers can keep the gates open.
Originally a bad design just waiting for a fatal accident to happen. But CDD believes saving a few trees and a sun watchers' parking lot more important.

What I've never understood is the roulette crossover that could have been avoided by a continuous cart path all the way south bound on morse from Hacienda hills country club down.The partial path runs down there still but used a lot by walkers. Not enough room? Looks like there is to me. Just my opinion.:popcorn:


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