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kstew43 10-16-2016 05:33 PM

Villages crossed Florida Turnpike
 
So while driving around the Fenny area this afternoon, we stumbled upon a group of people off 503. There families have been living in the Adamsville area for 3 generations.

There road has been reciently paved and we inquired about that. They informed us that Sumter County/&The Villages has bought up most of the county roads off 501 around Fenny and they need paved roads for the possible 18k per day traffic....?

supposedly Sumter county has taken 2 homes in her neighborhood that back up to Fenny for roadways already under eminent domain laws .....wow

They and there neighbors are selling all the town.....as a unit........$250k an acre....so cool......although she didn't feel the same way. They are loosing there neighbors and friends and she was not excited about that.

I said......I still don't understand how the villages will get over the Fla Pike. She said they already have....a little south of the Okahumpka toll...The Villages built a bridge over the turnpike and they own all the property from Center Hill to 44. I wasn't sure she was correct...

So when I got back home, I google mapped it, and she is absolutly correct. The bridge is there and seems an easy stretch from 505 to 468 or 44.....villages named it Southern Oaks....or so they said.


So now I know why Fenny is there....it will become golf cart accessible to the town squares and the other golf someday. Very interesting....

Allegiance 10-16-2016 05:40 PM

Does this mean the build out is not here? ;)

kstew43 10-16-2016 05:44 PM

"build out" funny? never gonna happen....

graciegirl 10-16-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1307092)
So while driving around the Fenny area this afternoon, we stumbled upon a group of people off 503. There families have been living in the Adamsville area for 3 generations.

There road has been reciently paved and we inquired about that. They informed us that Sumter County/&The Villages has bought up most of the county roads off 501 around Fenny and they need paved roads for the possible 18k per day traffic....?

supposedly Sumter county has taken 2 homes in her neighborhood that back up to Fenny for roadways already under eminent domain laws .....wow

They and there neighbors are selling all the town.....as a unit........$250k an acre....so cool......although she didn't feel the same way. They are loosing there neighbors and friends and she was not excited about that.

I said......I still don't understand how the villages will get over the Fla Pike. She said they already have....a little south of the Okahumpka toll...The Villages built a bridge over the turnpike and they own all the property from Center Hill to 44. I wasn't sure she was correct...

So when I got back home, I google mapped it, and she is absolutly correct. The bridge is there and seems an easy stretch from 505 to 468 or 44.....villages named it Southern Oaks....or so they said.


So now I know why Fenny is there....it will become golf cart accessible to the town squares and the other golf someday. Very interesting....

Can you link us to something that supports this claim that the Villages has taken homes in eminent domain? I doubt that they would have the power and I think a lot of incorrect information is spread by people who really aren't crazy about the developers or are angry they can't sell new homes. Not saying you didn't hear it, but I have heard some mightly tall tales from subs and people who are supposedly in the know.

Anything at all will do to support this rumor.. If it is so I will run naked through the square. And no one wants that! I bet what happened was that The developers bought the property from them at a good price.............

kstew43 10-16-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1307100)
Can you link us to something that supports this claim that the Villages has taken homes in eminent domain? I doubt that they would have the power and I think a lot of incorrect information is spread by people who really aren't crazy about the developers or are angry they can't sell new homes. Not saying yo didn't hear it, but I have heard some mightly tall tales from subs and people who are supposedly in the know.

Anything at all will do. If it is so I will run naked through the square.

well, I gotta say...I would pay to see that....but

Sumter county/The Villages, took there homes...sale price?.... can't prove that until google maps shows at the end of 503 attached to Fenny homes torn down, which shouldn't take too long to update....but if you drive down the road, it is newly paved.

The adamsville town acres/streets will go up for sale by the end of the week....all together...as one big acreage.

As far as the Fla turnpike golf cart bridge...that can be seen today.....in person...or on google maps

twoplanekid 10-16-2016 07:27 PM

The bridge on 468 across the Florida turnpike is a golf cart bridge? What is the speed allowed for car traffic? If it's 45 MPH or higher then golf carts will not be allowed. I will try to take an aerial picture of the bridge from the Cub tomorrow.

circletrack 10-16-2016 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1307105)
well, I gotta say...I would pay to see that....but

Sumter county/The Villages, took there homes...sale price?.... can't prove that until google maps shows at the end of 503 attached to Fenny homes torn down, which shouldn't take too long to update....but if you drive down the road, it is newly paved.

The adamsville town acres/streets will go up for sale by the end of the week....all together...as one big acreage.

As far as the Fla turnpike golf cart bridge...that can be seen today.....in person...or on google maps

A full-size automobile bridge was built yes, but right next to an existing bridge. It wasn't much of a secret, especially if you travel the turnpike often.

Packer Fan 10-16-2016 07:44 PM

Sure enough there is a bridge to nowhere south of the plaza...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ok...!4d-81.9822582

Google Maps
Not really sure that proves anything - or has anything to do with the Villages.


It must have been there for a long time - Google earth is over 2 years old in this area- it still shows the entire village of Hillsborough as dirt...

ColdNoMore 10-16-2016 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 1307105)
As far as the Fla turnpike golf cart bridge...that can be seen today.....in person...or on google maps

That bridge, which is south of the Okahumpka Travel Plaza, has been there a long time and has a sign on it that identifies it as 'Bailey Road.'

My guess is that it was built to provide access for a farmer (Bailey?)...when the toll road cut through his/her land.

I'm sure it could be used for a golf cart trail though and maybe the developer plans on doing just that...but The Villages didn't build it.

Unless, The Developer was planning on expanding all the way back in...1964. :D

Bailey Road Over Sr 91 | Bridge Inspections | Sumter County | theledger.com | The Ledger | Lakeland, FL

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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1307122)
A full-size automobile bridge was built yes, but right next to an existing bridge. It wasn't much of a secret, especially if you travel the turnpike often.

The bridge that you're talking about is north of the Okahumpka Travel Plaza and is an upgrade of highway 468.

It will be a new interchange with the Florida Turnpike...and IT IS being paid for by The Developer.

twoplanekid 10-16-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1307126)
Sure enough there is a bridge to nowhere south of the plaza...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ok...!4d-81.9822582

Google Maps
Not really sure that proves anything - or has anything to do with the Villages.


It must have been there for a long time - Google earth is over 2 years old in this area- it still shows the entire village of Hillsborough as dirt...

I never noticed this bridge to nowhere. It's about 2 miles south of the 468 bridge along the turnpike and shows on a Google Earth picture taken way back in January of 1999. What the heck I will fly over both bridges and snoop.

dewilson58 10-16-2016 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coldnomore (Post 1307128)
that bridge, which is south of the okahumpka travel plaza, has been there a long time and has a sign on it that identifies it as 'bailey road.'

my guess is that it was built to provide access for a farmer (bailey?)...when the toll road cut through his/her land.

I'm sure it could be used for a golf cart trail though and maybe the developer plans on doing just that...but the villages didn't build it.




bingo

dewilson58 10-16-2016 08:14 PM

A manager at Walmart told me, Costco bot the bridge.

circletrack 10-16-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1307128)
That bridge, which is south of the Okahumpka Travel Plaza, has been there a long time and has a sign on it that identifies it as 'Bailey Road.'

My guess is that it was built to provide access for a farmer (Bailey?)...when the toll road cut through his/her land.

I'm sure it could be used for a golf cart trail though and maybe the developer plans on doing just that...but The Villages didn't build it.

Unless, The Developer was planning on expanding all the way back in...1964. :D

Bailey Road Over Sr 91 | Bridge Inspections | Sumter County | theledger.com | The Ledger | Lakeland, FL








The bridge that you're talking about is north of the Okahumpka Travel Plaza and is an upgrade of highway 468.

It will be a new interchange with the Florida Turnpike...and IT IS being paid for by The Developer.


Now that Bailey bridge could be key to this. That's assuming they've bought up all that land. Wonder what shape that bridge is in?

ColdNoMore 10-16-2016 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by circletrack (Post 1307148)
Now that Bailey bridge could be key to this. That's assuming they've bought up all that land. Wonder what shape that bridge is in?

I agree that having it already in place, saved The Villages millions of dollars in putting a golf cart bridge across the Turnpike.

The link I provided is the inspection of the bridge made in 2013.

While it isn't in perfect shape, it gets a 96.4 'Health Index' and I'm sure it would be fine for golf carts.

Here's the link again.

Bailey Road Over Sr 91 | Bridge Inspections | Sumter County | theledger.com | The Ledger | Lakeland, FL

circletrack 10-16-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1307150)
I agree that having it already in place, saved The Villages millions of dollars in putting a golf cart bridge across the Turnpike.

The link I provided is the inspection of the bridge made in 2013.

While it isn't in perfect shape, it gets a 96.4 'Health Index' and I'm sure it would be fine for golf carts.

Here's the link again.

Bailey Road Over Sr 91 | Bridge Inspections | Sumter County | theledger.com | The Ledger | Lakeland, FL


Yeah, looks like a few issues. It needs standards upgrades. But would likely do the job.


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