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billethkid 11-29-2016 01:28 PM

Pelosi or Ryan...will dems choose wisely or just more of the same?
 
Yes the title implies improvement with the ouster of Pelosi.

If she gets re-elected then the dems can pack it up....again....as the establishment will remain in control.

So what do some of you very opinionated (good thing!) democrats have to say?

billethkid 11-29-2016 03:23 PM

the quiet is deafening!!

Ron_Ski 11-29-2016 05:03 PM

One of the arguments for Pelosi is she is an extremely prolific fund raiser.
But if money is the answer, then why weren't the Dems more successful.
Consider Hillary outspent Trump 50 to 1.

The problem the Dem's have, is they keep using the same tired playbook of identity politics.
They really need to get younger blood in leadership with new ideas.

:popcorn:

billethkid 11-29-2016 05:31 PM

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Posted by Guest
One of the arguments for Pelosi is she is an extremely prolific fund raiser.
But if money is the answer, then why weren't the Dems more successful.
Consider Hillary outspent Trump 50 to 1.

The problem the Dem's have, is they keep using the same tired playbook of identity politics.
They really need to get younger blood in leadership with new ideas.

:popcorn:

Washington establishment, career politicians, cronyism, special interest driven robots, needs a house cleaning.

If Pelosi wins the establishment sends a message.

An enema for Washington is on the way!!!

rubicon 11-30-2016 05:36 AM

Ryan has really done nothing exceptional.

However the Dems need new leadership and they need to rewrite their platform.

Pelosi is the epitome of the political ruling class (would be aristocrats)that actually believe there are the political class and all others .

she is a prime example of why we need term limits in Congress

Personal Best Regards

billethkid 11-30-2016 08:12 AM

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Posted by Guest
Ryan has really done nothing exceptional.

However the Dems need new leadership and they need to rewrite their platform.

Pelosi is the epitome of the political ruling class (would be aristocrats)that actually believe there are the political class and all others .

she is a prime example of why we need term limits in Congress

Personal Best Regards

:BigApplause:

Succinctly to the point!

MDLNB 11-30-2016 08:55 AM

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Posted by Guest
Ryan has really done nothing exceptional.

However the Dems need new leadership and they need to rewrite their platform.

Pelosi is the epitome of the political ruling class (would be aristocrats)that actually believe there are the political class and all others .

she is a prime example of why we need term limits in Congress

Personal Best Regards

The problem is that you will NEVER get congress to "limit" anything.......except certain freedoms.

billethkid 11-30-2016 09:37 AM

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The problem is that you will NEVER get congress to "limit" anything.......except certain freedoms.

If she is re-elected, again, it will confirm the establishment does not shatre the views that a change is needed in Washington.
The threat of $$$ support and eliminating some of the power and doing the bidding of the people are all components that will prove their priority if she is re-elected.

Don Baldwin 11-30-2016 09:49 AM

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The problem is that you will NEVER get congress to "limit" anything.......except certain freedoms.

We have FAR less freedom now than under King George before the war.

MDLNB 11-30-2016 10:12 AM

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We have FAR less freedom now than under King George before the war.

I didn't know that guy. Was he your type of guy?

jimbo2012 11-30-2016 05:39 PM

Democrats got their ass handed to them in 2010, 2014 and 2016 and yet they just re-elected the same Captain who steered the ship

janmcn 11-30-2016 05:49 PM

Rep Nancy Pelosi will be the only one fighting to keep Medicare from going to a voucher system, as the GOP declares war on seniors. She always delivers the votes and keeps her caucus together.

jimbo2012 11-30-2016 07:18 PM

The average age of the House Republican leadership is 47.


The average age of the House Democratic leadership is 76.

billethkid 11-30-2016 07:48 PM

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Rep Nancy Pelosi will be the only one fighting to keep Medicare from going to a voucher system, as the GOP declares war on seniors. She always delivers the votes and keeps her caucus together.

Some folks must be drinking the same stuff Stein is lubricated with!!

Chi-Town 12-01-2016 09:38 AM

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Some folks must be drinking the same stuff Stein is lubricated with!!

You know BTK, you put a troll type thread out there looking for a point of view from a Democrat, and finally someone responded. So what do you do? You rip it. Very classless of you. I expected more, but now you're in the basket with Donny B.



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