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fw102807 02-26-2017 07:36 AM

Firefighters
 
I am very disturbed by the opposition to pay increases to the firefighters. People see nothing wrong with paying some fool who can throw a ball around millions of dollars but do not want to pay someone who may save their life.
How much money do you waste on designer items or tickets to sporting events or even expensive cars but you refuse to pay a few more dollars to pay the first responders? The people who come day and night when you have a medical emergency or are in an accident, or set your house on fire or have to respond to a shooting or bombing. Really people?

stan the man 02-26-2017 07:54 AM

I totally agree ..

Villager Joyce 02-26-2017 08:12 AM

I agree, but....what are your plans for correcting this AND who are you angry at? I didn't buy luxury items instead of paying more money to the firefighters.

fw102807 02-26-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1365613)
I agree, but....what are your plans for correcting this AND who are you angry at? I didn't buy luxury items instead of paying more money to the firefighters.

I am angry at the people who are opposed to increasing their wages to a decent level and who do not appreciate the sacrifices they make. People think all they do is put out fires and do not fully understand how hard the job really is.

Villager Joyce 02-26-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1365624)
I am angry at the people who are opposed to increasing their wages to a decent level and who do not appreciate the sacrifices they make. People think all they do is put out fires and do not fully understand how hard the job really is.

First question still unanswered: what are you going to do about it?

Second question, part two: who are tbe people who are opposed to increasing wages and who are tbe people who don't appreciate their sacrifices?

We are on the same side. I just think ranting ugliness on TOTV does NOTHNG to correct the situation.

skip0358 02-26-2017 09:47 AM

The Union President has asked Villagers to show up at Lake Miona on March 7 @10 AM in the Reliance Room. There's a meeting about the raises

Villager Joyce 02-26-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1365671)
The Union President has asked Villagers to show up at Lake Miona on March 7 @10 AM in the Reliance Room. There's a meeting about the raises

Thanks. Will be there. How would we know this if you hadn't informed us?

skip0358 02-26-2017 09:57 AM

I believe it was the other online news there was an article in there.

fw102807 02-26-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 1365671)
The Union President has asked Villagers to show up at Lake Miona on March 7 @10 AM in the Reliance Room. There's a meeting about the raises

Yes skip0358, thank you for bringing it up. I hope that people will go and show their support.

graciegirl 02-26-2017 01:32 PM

[QUOTE=Villager Joyce;1365660]First question still unanswered: what are you going to do about it?

Second question, part two: who are tbe people who are opposed to increasing wages and who are tbe people who don't appreciate their sacrifices?

We are on the same side. I just think ranting ugliness on TOTV does NOTHNG to correct the situation.[/QUOTE]

Well SAID Joyce. As usual!!


I am guessing this poster is a fire fighter???

Sir/Madam. Just so you will know, I am tight as a drum but I always vote for EMS and first responders and school levies. Don't say stuff like that to us. We are nice people.

TheDude 02-27-2017 12:16 AM

This is something that I will be hammered for and to be honest, there is no amount I wouldn't pay a firefighter or any other life saver up until I can't do it.

The OP brought up something about ballplayers and millions of dollars. In 1525 they would be court jesters, but they found a way.

So I ask. What is the $ amount to pay them? Everyone will say give them as much as possible, but what is possible? I don't know how to ask the question? No one here will say 'pay them a million dollars' then actually put their taxes at 80% of their take home income. What is the right number?

And again, just playing devil's advocate (I know, bad). Heck, I don't know what they make, in NYC they start at 40K and in 5 years got to 100K.

What is the increase they want?

And please don't hammer me for asking the question that many are thinking.

Reiver 02-27-2017 02:21 AM

The National median annual Fire Fighter salary is $44,573, as of January 30, 2017, with a range usually between $33,430-$55,717.

fw102807 02-27-2017 06:56 AM

They hope to see starting pay for EMTs raised to $40,000 from $33,600 per year. The firefighters would also like to see the starting salary for a paramedic increased to $50,000 and a starting lieutenant’s pay raised to $57,500.

I don't know about any of you but I made more money that this sitting in front of a computer so I do not think it is a lot for someone who does what they do.

tom g 02-27-2017 07:23 AM

What would you suggest . Grace

ColdNoMore 02-27-2017 07:40 AM

The salaries paid to firefighters, police, teachers, the military and others that provide a great public service....have always been ridiculously low in my opinion.

The problem of course, is that wages are pretty much driven by what it takes...to get qualified people to fill those positions.

Comparing professional athletes and entertainers, with these jobs...just isn't realistic.

Team owners don't want to pay any more than they need to either, but will do it based on what they think they have to shell out to fill the seats.

And therein lies the big problem.

Athletes/entertainers are paid on what they can make their owners (ROI), whereas dedicated public servants are considered a 'necessary evil'...by those who want their taxes to stay low.

Is it fair that most plumbers make more than a cop or firefighter?

Not in my book...but yet they do. :shrug:


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