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dave harris 03-03-2017 09:37 AM

Obamacare replacement
 
Has any one seen it, republicans would like to see it, is this what is called transparency? trump railed about, we need transparency in government.

Chi-Town 03-03-2017 10:43 AM

Where is the new immigration executive order that was due days ago?

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Sandtrap328 03-03-2017 11:03 AM

Trump said, "On Day One, I will repeal Obamacare!" The Regressives have not come up with a replacement plan even though they had 7 YEARS to build one - and Obamacare has not been replaced nor repealed.

Trump is a loudmouth who fooled Americans.

I will be laughing when a replacement plan comes out that takes so many Regressives out of their health insurance plans and they are so uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions or have lifetime caps on benefits.

Don Baldwin 03-03-2017 11:15 AM

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Trump said, "On Day One, I will repeal Obamacare!" The Regressives have not come up with a replacement plan even though they had 7 YEARS to build one - and Obamacare has not been replaced nor repealed.

Trump is a loudmouth who fooled Americans.

I will be laughing when a replacement plan comes out that takes so many Regressives out of their health insurance plans and they are so uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions or have lifetime caps on benefits.

It MUST happen...it's unsustainable any other way.

If you were a white man...you could understand that.

To "pay for" $1 million in healthcare costs...you would have to be 80 years old...AND made 960 monthly payments...your entire life...of over $1,000 a month. To break even.

The ONLY way to give everyone healthcare is to bring the cost WAY down. Make medicine non-profit.

Rockyrd 03-03-2017 11:17 AM

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Posted by Guest
Trump said, "On Day One, I will repeal Obamacare!" The Regressives have not come up with a replacement plan even though they had 7 YEARS to build one - and Obamacare has not been replaced nor repealed.

Trump is a loudmouth who fooled Americans.

I will be laughing when a replacement plan comes out that takes so many Regressives out of their health insurance plans and they are so uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions or have lifetime caps on benefits.


"Trump is a loudmouth who fooled Americans."

Yes, and unless he delivers jobs, it will become more evident and more pronounced as time goes on.

jchase 03-03-2017 11:20 AM

Get over it! You lost!

MDLNB 03-03-2017 11:43 AM

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Any solution will be better than Obamacare, including NO solution but repealing it.

dillywho 03-03-2017 11:57 AM

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Trump said, "On Day One, I will repeal Obamacare!" The Regressives have not come up with a replacement plan even though they had 7 YEARS to build one - and Obamacare has not been replaced nor repealed.

Trump is a loudmouth who fooled Americans.

I will be laughing when a replacement plan comes out that takes so many Regressives out of their health insurance plans and they are so uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions or have lifetime caps on benefits.

He HAS stated the parts of Obamacare that they will use: Pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26 at home. Did you conveniently dismiss that part or just haven't paid attention? Day one was the start, not the end. People who did not conform to having Obamacare because of the expense already do not get a penalty. At least, it won't be "pass it to see what's in it", this time. He wants insurance companies to be able to be bought across state lines. If you can find better and/or cheaper in another state, they can sell it to you. Right now, Obamacare is still in place, so what's the panic? Do you take everything everyone says literally?

affald 03-03-2017 12:53 PM

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It MUST happen...it's unsustainable any other way.

If you were a white man...you could understand that.

To "pay for" $1 million in healthcare costs...you would have to be 80 years old...AND made 960 monthly payments...your entire life...of over $1,000 a month. To break even.

The ONLY way to give everyone healthcare is to bring the cost WAY down. Make medicine non-profit.

The Republicans and Democrats together created the health system. They love the lobby money and the "jobs" given to them after public service, jobs to relatives and numerous other kickbacks.

Philly-area firm leads the hospital-bill fight vs. the $500 Tylenol — NewsWorks

It's organized crime at the highest level. The health care system is not alone.

Only a guy like Trump can make fundamental changes. But liberal voters are too stupid and are bring brainwashed.

BOOM!

dave harris 03-03-2017 01:11 PM

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Get over it! You lost!

I think in the end you will have lost.

dave harris 03-03-2017 01:12 PM

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Posted by Guest
Any solution will be better than Obamacare, including NO solution but repealing it.

I'd love to see, you only, lose your health care.

dave harris 03-03-2017 01:17 PM

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Posted by Guest
The Republicans and Democrats together created the health system. They love the lobby money and the "jobs" given to them after public service, jobs to relatives and numerous other kickbacks.

Philly-area firm leads the hospital-bill fight vs. the $500 Tylenol — NewsWorks

It's organized crime at the highest level. The health care system is not alone.

Only a guy like Trump can make fundamental changes. But liberal voters are too stupid and are bring brainwashed.

BOOM!

Yes, he is full of plans for health care, where are they. He is a con man and you have been conned but will not admit it. You are just like the rest of the sheep.

Sandtrap328 03-03-2017 02:35 PM

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He HAS stated the parts of Obamacare that they will use: Pre-existing conditions and kids up to 26 at home. Did you conveniently dismiss that part or just haven't paid attention? Day one was the start, not the end. People who did not conform to having Obamacare because of the expense already do not get a penalty. At least, it won't be "pass it to see what's in it", this time. He wants insurance companies to be able to be bought across state lines. If you can find better and/or cheaper in another state, they can sell it to you. Right now, Obamacare is still in place, so what's the panic? Do you take everything everyone says literally?

Trump and the Dumplicans have said they agree the pre-existing conditions clause, the kids under 26, and no lifetime caps are good and want them kept. However, the insurance companies do not like those clauses and will NOT agree to them again. If Obamacare is repealed, these clauses will be GONE forever before the replacement plan is enacted. Insurance companies are smarter than Trump and Congress.

affald 03-03-2017 04:17 PM

Trump won't release the details to the liberals, lol.

He is testing to see how it gets leaked. Maybe misinformation will be leaked.

autumnspring 03-03-2017 05:34 PM

Obviously no easy answers
 
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It MUST happen...it's unsustainable any other way.

If you were a white man...you could understand that.

To "pay for" $1 million in healthcare costs...you would have to be 80 years old...AND made 960 monthly payments...your entire life...of over $1,000 a month. To break even.

The ONLY way to give everyone healthcare is to bring the cost WAY down. Make medicine non-profit.

RE: Your suggestion to make medicine non-profit.
There are many books on the result of price control. The result is always the same. Fewer supplies, LESS QUALITY, and the creation of a black market.

Obama didn't and if TRUMP does there will be an outcry-limit the costs of medical lawsuits. WE HAVE FAR TOO MANY AMBULANCE CHASERS AND FAR TOO MANY JURISTS WHO THINK THE DRUG COMPANIES HAVE DEEP POCKETS. These are the same people who bitch about the cost of drugs. The lawsuits add about 30% to the cost of medical care.

We are all guilty. You doctor suggests some test-often reason is to avoid lawsuits. We go for the test saying what the heck medicare will pay for it.

My view-The lawsuits should be SETTLED by a group of doctors. Of course the doctor being sued should not be known. Easy enough if the reviewing doctors are in a different state. I also think there should be a significant copay. That would cut costs for medicare, cut the illusion that there is no cost involved. We might then need to SHOP for lower cost options as we do with everything we purchase-EXCEPT MEDICAL CARE.

AN ADVENTURE-ask your doctor for the cost. It is truly amusing. You will get a look like he/she/it thinks you are crazy.


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