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jebartle 03-10-2017 10:42 AM

Why is medicare for all, not an option with this congress?
 
Is it mostly budget? What could be changed on budget to make this happen, like so many countries.

jebartle 03-10-2017 10:45 AM

If each congressman had the same healthcare as the rest of us WITH the same income maybe they would be more understanding and compassionate.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 02:07 PM

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Is it mostly budget? What could be changed on budget to make this happen, like so many countries.

You mean WHITE countries...it's white and some asian countries that take care of the people...because MOST of the people are productive citizens and not leeches like our minorities. The more brown people...the less prosperous...ALWAYS. We're at 49% white people and we're also #25 in the world.

Reiver 03-10-2017 02:43 PM

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If each congressman had the same healthcare as the rest of us WITH the same income maybe they would be more understanding and compassionate.

A friend of mine who works for an insurance company help line once handed me an insurance policy to read. It was horrible. I panicked and asked him if that was going to be my new NYS employee plan after Obamacare was instituted.
He said "Nope. That's the Federal plan that our congressmen subscribe to."
It's just another example of someone with an axe to grind made a stupid claim and the brilliant Americans believed the lies rather than reading the document and figuring things out for themselves.

n8xwb 03-10-2017 05:25 PM

Hey, J.E. Bartle, if you like Medicare for all as in "so many other countries", I would suggest that you renounce your American citizenship, and move to one of those countries!!!

dirtbanker 03-10-2017 06:47 PM

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Is it mostly budget? What could be changed on budget to make this happen, like so many countries.

For one; you could sell everything you own but your oldest vehicle, deposit all your funds in one checking account, figure out how much you owe on state and federal income tax at that moment.

Write 3 checks (1 to IRS for the tax owed, 1 to state for the tax owed, and one to Medicare to help them). Once the checks have been written, drop them in the mail. Now load your husband and your dumb ass in that car you have...Drive fast and blow the horn all the way to where the sun does not shine!

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dirtbanker 03-10-2017 06:49 PM

Fricken liberal idiots!!

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MDLNB 03-10-2017 07:31 PM

Medicare sucks! Why would anyone want it for "ALL?" Socialists!!!

wjboyer1 03-10-2017 07:43 PM

Equal under the law?
 
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If each congressman had the same healthcare as the rest of us WITH the same income maybe they would be more understanding and compassionate.

If Ryan were one of us "regular citizens"Attachment 66638

wjboyer1 03-10-2017 07:46 PM

Single Payer makes sense
 
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Medicare sucks! Why would anyone want it for "ALL?" Socialists!!!

It is really cheaper and better for the country.....Attachment 66639

wjboyer1 03-10-2017 07:49 PM

stupidity shows its ugly head
 
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Hey, J.E. Bartle, if you like Medicare for all as in "so many other countries", I would suggest that you renounce your American citizenship, and move to one of those countries!!!

Most of us actually care about our country, and our health.....I guess you are just not a real American, just an incredibly stupid person.....Attachment 66640

Paper1 03-10-2017 08:20 PM

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Hey, J.E. Bartle, if you like Medicare for all as in "so many other countries", I would suggest that you renounce your American citizenship, and move to one of those countries!!!

I don't know who you are or your history but your post displays a great deal of ignorance. I honestly don't mean this as a personal attack.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 08:25 PM

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It is really cheaper and better for the country.....Attachment 66639

HOW does it get paid for? There are at LEAST 50 million who won't/can't pay OR contribute. 50 million sitting at home and sucking resources. We CAN'T afford to give 50 million a free ride any more. Especially healthcare equal to $12,000 a year.

Single payer, the government as payer, works in countries that are a majority white because whites work together to make things work, we contribute fairly equally. That's why the N European countries, Canada, Australia, can all offer "free" healthcare. Because the government doesn't have all the OTHER welfare costs that the US has with a 51% minority population. They're all pretty much 90% white. Pretty much 90% productive. We're closer to half productive...50% productive.

It's ALL about demographics. They have productive white people, we're half unproductive minorities.

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Most of us actually care about our country, and our health.....I guess you are just not a real American, just an incredibly stupid person.....Attachment 66640

BOTH sides lie and use propaganda.

The D, the liberal, great lie is equality...we are NOT equal and quotas PROVE it. There are no quotas for blacks in the NBA or NFL or boxing. We PAY them $ millions, bid for them...because they're GOOD at those sports. EVERYTHING else...not so good. And we don't want them there.

RickeyD 03-10-2017 09:13 PM

Why should only a segment of our citizenry enjoy the benefits of socialized medicine ? Being over 65 makes people special ? I say Medicare for all and to all a good night.

Don Baldwin 03-10-2017 09:55 PM

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Why should only a segment of our citizenry enjoy the benefits of socialized medicine ? Being over 65 makes people special ? I say Medicare for all and to all a good night.

Because they already PAID for it? When they worked those 30-50 years...they PAID for it.

The poor NEVER paid for ANYTHING...yet they get it for free? Seniors should be demanding all their money be refunded...WHY should they have to pay 30-50 years and someone else walks in and gets it for free?

The country CAN'T give EVERYONE "free" healthcare. GIVING everyone, all 330,000,000 people "$1,000 a month worth of coverage" would cost the country $3,960,000,000,000 Almost $4 trillion a year. Obamacare costs $660,000,000,000 a year insuring the 50 million poor.


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