Doctors using Stem Cells
 

Medical.
There is a new medical procedure going around,
Stem Cells and Injections. A Medical Group from Altamont Springs Fl. Comprehensive Healthcare Inc. They did a presentation at the Waterfront Inn and they will do an evaluation free of charge for the first visit to evaluate the possibilities. They propose to inject Stem Cells to painful areas and they claim a high degree of successes.
If you have had any experience with this procedure here or otherwise will you please send a message here on the TOTV website.? Would be interested to know about your success. Reply or call 352 775-9228.:pepper2:

If it isn't covered by medicare, I would be suspicious. I am suspicious of any presentation from a rented hotel space. It feels to me like someone is trying to sell someone something that is hard to sell. I run like Hell away from all such presentations.

I thought that we all all have stem cells. That's what replaces the brain cells when we damage them when reading stupid stuff about stem cells. I am not being mean but this is not the forum to talk about stem cells.Try google. It's smarter than a brain cell.

OK, that was pretty funny. :1rotfl:

FDA Approved
 

My neighbor had frozen stem cells injected in each knee. Fresh ones cost twice as much. Her ortho surgeon did it. Said it was new and FDA approved.

Please do some research, I was investigating this for my better half. Found lots of negative info (WebMD and similar sites), all of the positive info seemed to be from the entity or related companies. Ended up contacting a relative who is a doctor, bottom line the procedure was being done off US soil, not covered by any insurance or Medicare, we declined.

If you do real research, not on TOTV, I think you will stay away from these people.

I know you are just repeating what you were told, but if bad information is not challenged people remember the lie.

The FDA did not approve of the treatment your neighbor received. From the FDA website

Additionally, the majority of the unregulated stem cell clinics at least will only use your own harvested cells from your own fat tissue. That way they are injecting your cells back into you. No issues with transmitting disease or causing immune issues. This is a loophole the stem cell clinics use to say they do NOT need FDA approval as they are just giving you back your own tissue. This is a slimy, IMO, twisting of the phrase FDA approved.

From Regenexx's website on this issue:
See what they did there? They wrote the question with the word "approved", but answered "yes ..are compliant". What that means is that they are operating under an exemption from needing approval as there is no foreign material being injected, just your own cells. So not really approved, in fact, they depend on NOT needing approval because they claim to be exempt.

Clinics which claim to be using anonymous donor cells? Frozen? How were the donors screened? Keep in mind the clinic already lied to you about FDA approval of their procedure. And using other person's cells is not exempt. There are FDA approved studies of stem cells. But then you would have been given an informed consent that you were in a study and likely not been charged anything for your willingness to be a study subject.

For those who are interested in the loophole, here is the exact FDA rule providing an exemption for clinics who harvest your own stem cells and give them back to you immediatedly [no manipulation or growing of tissue]. There was discussion of closing this loophole last year but as far as I know, no new regulations were issued.

PART 1271 -- HUMAN CELLS, TISSUES, AND CELLULAR AND TISSUE-BASED PRODUCTS
Subpart A--General Provisions
Sec. 1271.15 Are there any exceptions from the requirements of this part?
(a) You are not required to comply with the requirements of this part if you are an establishment that uses HCT/P's solely for nonclinical scientific or educational purposes.
(b) You are not required to comply with the requirements of this part if you are an establishment that removes HCT/P's from an individual and implants such HCT/P's into the same individual during the same surgical procedure. [my bold]

Stem cells
 

Hi, as a follow up to my original posting on Stem Cells, I will add this:

I have no financial interest in this firm, none at all. What I have seen is rather interesting. No work has been done for me or on me or on my wife.

I am having serious pain in the back and knees due to wear and tear and growing older, I have done some preliminary checking on what may or what may not help. Instead of my explaining what I found, if interested you may contact the firm and go from there. I am doing this only in hopes that it may be of help for someone in pain here or elsewhere. If it is not of interest to anyone, then I suggest you simply drop the issue.
All I have seen from them has been free, professionally presented and no medical or other related work has been done for me at this time. They did a very good and thorough presentation at the Waterfront Hotel, it was educational and very interesting, we also went to see their clinic in Altamont Springs.
It is:
COMPREHENSIVE HEALTHCARE INC.
REGENERATIVE MEDICAL SERVICES
Altamont Springs, Fl.
Ph 407 862 7272 E: CM@chcphysicalmed.com
New Patient Special | Pain Relief Altamonte Springs FL

bbbbbb 352 775 9228 :thumbup:

In my opinion, this is total hogwash. I hope you don't fall for this scam.

Stem cells etc.
 

In the last couple of years, there have been some very big changes in the Stem Cell process. I have found it interesting and very informative but I am not making any recommendations, I have not meant to do that and it is best I keep what I have found to myself. So hopefully, if you have major pain experiences, you may or may not want to investigate this. There is a tremendous amount of new information if you do some serious looking. Due to some of the remarks on here, I will bow out of it, I was hoping it might help someone. Probably a bad decision.

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Generally speaking I would think it'd be safe to say that the future of medicine lies in genetics. There have been some major breakthroughs on that front. However there is still a big divide between traditional medicine and borderline quackery and people in pain who haven't been trained to evaluate the difference can often throw good money away.

I say if they want to talk to you and buy you lunch...run.

Absolutely!!