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Rita M 05-25-2017 08:39 PM

Smoking
 
Can anyone please explain to me how people are allowed to smoke when there is a sign posted, "Smoke Free Campus"?
Today at Cornerstone Hospice the family was sitting outside mourning our loss, when we were asked to move so a hospice patient could sit and smoke.

graciegirl 05-25-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rita M (Post 1403122)
Can anyone please explain to me how people are allowed to smoke when there is a sign posted, "Smoke Free Campus"?
Today at Cornerstone Hospice the family was sitting outside mourning our loss, when we were asked to move so a hospice patient could sit and smoke.

The hospice patient is dying. I know that you lost someone and I am so sorry, but the patient himself is there because he is at the end of his life and should be allowed to smoke if he wants to.

manaboutown 05-25-2017 09:02 PM

Tex Williams - Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! (That Cigarette) 1947 - YouTube

Nucky 05-25-2017 09:28 PM

Please take my word for it that I'm a considerate person. That being said looking in the rear view mirror at my smoking history it was an area where good manners and thoughtfulness and legality went out the window. I cared about one thing only, the next cigarette and to hell with the person it disrupted or interfered with.

I can't speak for that person who goofed you up today while you were morning your loss but the addiction to that next smoke is powerful. How it came about that I quit is an absolute miracle. I know something greater than me had a hand in conquering this devilish habit. I'm also very sorry for your loss. My only chance of evening the score for my thoughtlessness is to do something nice for someone and keeping the good deed to myself. Take Care.

manaboutown 05-25-2017 09:35 PM

I have seen a dying man, a judge, come out from under an oxygen tent to smoke a cigarette. The addiction to nicotine is terrible. I have read it is seven times as addictive as heroine.

LI SNOWBIRD 05-26-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1403132)

Thanks for the link--my parents sang it and it brought back memories for me.

graciegirl 05-26-2017 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1403145)
I have seen a dying man, a judge, come out from under an oxygen tent to smoke a cigarette. The addiction to nicotine is terrible. I have read it is seven times as addictive as heroine.

It appears that as we age both the addiction to alcohol and nicotine are nearly impossible to conquer.

I don't use either anymore. I think addictive tendencies may be genetic. Some people can use both and not be addicted but some cannot.

Taltarzac725 05-26-2017 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1403254)
It appears that as we age both the addiction to alcohol and nicotine are nearly impossible to conquer.

I don't use either anymore. I think addictive tendencies may be genetic. Some people can use both and not be addicted but some cannot.

I am addicted to TOTV. Among other things.

I often see nurses smoking and wonder why someone trained about the effects of nicotine addition would continue smoking?

The irony of the nurse who smokes | Scrubs - The Leading Lifestyle Nursing Magazine Featuring Inspirational and Informational Nursing Articles

Some fast facts about nurses and smoking:

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An estimated 540,000 nurses in the U.S. are smokers.
The tobacco industry profits from selling an addictive drug. It may be legal, but their product kills 440,000 people per year. That’s the same as if three 747 jets crashed every day for a year and killed all their passengers.
Nurses have the highest smoking rate among healthcare providers, estimated to be about 18 percent.
Tobacco is highly addictive, and 90 percent of smokers start before the age of 18.
On average, it takes 11 attempts to quit for good.
http://www.nightingalesnurses.org/

Bowtorc 05-26-2017 12:05 PM

Let it go. The man was dying and probably was no big deal to move. It's a really bad habit but very hard to stop and no reason for him to stop if he was on the way out.

TheDude 05-26-2017 09:18 PM

I knew a man in a wheel chair, lung gone, breathing device on his wheelchair and was possibly homeless in NYC. He would go to the ER every day in the evening after the day shift left and complained of breathing problems. Of course he had the problems so they would treat him, feed him, and as he would be waiting for the doctor he would go outside the ER entrance in his wheelchair and smoke a cigarette. It was a while ago and he is long dead, however he knew what was killing him but the immediate comfort was better than the long term benefit for him.

Its something I always remember when I have my demons. I do know right from wrong, and sometimes the fast comfort feels so much better than the suffering that you may need for the long time benefit. It is up to what if worth more for you.

I hate cigarette smoke more than most. You don't know, I would avoid people who had it on their clothing. In a Hospice, well, I would not judge, just walk away. Hospice means death. Its not in the bank.

kaydee 05-26-2017 10:05 PM

My condolences for the loss of your family member and kudos to whoever it was that granted any wish to the patient who is dying. I hope he/she received enjoyment from smoking that cigarette.

CFrance 05-27-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1403256)
I am addicted to TOTV. Among other things.

I often see nurses smoking and wonder why someone trained about the effects of nicotine addition would continue smoking?

The irony of the nurse who smokes | Scrubs - The Leading Lifestyle Nursing Magazine Featuring Inspirational and Informational Nursing Articles

Some fast facts about nurses and smoking:



http://www.nightingalesnurses.org/

My beloved OB who delivered our second son had a pack of Marlboros in his scrubs shirt pocket. Of course, that was almost 39 years ago...

Retiring 05-27-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rita M (Post 1403122)
Can anyone please explain to me how people are allowed to smoke when there is a sign posted, "Smoke Free Campus"?
Today at Cornerstone Hospice the family was sitting outside mourning our loss, when we were asked to move so a hospice patient could sit and smoke.

Let the dying patient smoke. Just like if he were dying of heart disease I wouldn’t deny him a cheeseburger. Patients don’t usually come home from a hospice. Please give them the respect and kindness they deserve in their final days. You had to move to another seat, that’s ok. That patient is picking out coffins.

ColdNoMore 05-27-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1403773)
Let the dying patient smoke. Just like if he were dying of heart disease I wouldn’t deny him a cheeseburger. Patients don’t usually come home from a hospice. Please give them the respect and kindness they deserve in their final days. You had to move to another seat, that’s ok. That patient is picking out coffins.

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It just seems so...obvious. :ohdear:

Topspinmo 05-31-2017 11:36 AM

Yul Brynner famous last words'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST DON'T SMOKE!! If you've smoked pack or more day for 50 years. Some just can't stop or won't. I have witnessed some on they're last breath of air and still wanted to have the last puff. When you get on oxygen just to breath time is short, very short.


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