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redwitch 05-30-2017 09:52 AM
Politically Correct
 
This is a hot button for many. They see being politically correct as an infringement of free speech. I can't say I'm really PC since I still use male/female descriptive statements. My basic rule is that if something I say will hurt another person, I try not to say it. If that's being PC, then I'll proudly wear that mantle.

I don't take offense when people say they drank the Kool-Aid, it just hurts me. It reminds me of a young man I taught to drive and his death at the hands of his mother in Jonestown. So, yes, I ask that people not use that phrase. Some have understood and don't use it around me. Some think I'm overly sensitive and I should get over it. I just know that if the situation were reversed, I would never use that phrase around that person again.

If I see something hurtful here, I will try to speak up. What others choose to do about my comments is up to them. I'm not trying to shame someone when I make a comment but rather hoping they might see the pain they are causing another and take down or change their wording.

So, be PC or not, but please try to be kind and thoughtful. Whether we like it or not, words hurt, sometimes more than sticks and stones.

And off of this soapbox for now.

Taltarzac725 05-30-2017 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1404785)
This is a hot button for many. They see being politically correct as an infringement of free speech. I can't say I'm really PC since I still use male/female descriptive statements. My basic rule is that if something I say will hurt another person, I try not to say it. If that's being PC, then I'll proudly wear that mantle.

I don't take offense when people say they drank the Kool-Aid, it just hurts me. It reminds me of a young man I taught to drive and his death at the hands of his mother in Jonestown. So, yes, I ask that people not use that phrase. Some have understood and don't use it around me. Some think I'm overly sensitive and I should get over it. I just know that if the situation were reversed, I would never use that phrase around that person again.

If I see something hurtful here, I will try to speak up. What others choose to do about my comments is up to them. I'm not trying to shame someone when I make a comment but rather hoping they might see the pain they are causing another and take down or change their wording.

So, be PC or not, but please try to be kind and thoughtful. Whether we like it or not, words hurt, sometimes more than sticks and stones.

And off of this soapbox for now.
I recall the Jim Jones Cult mess. Jim Jones - Wikipedia I had a Sociology of Religion Professor who had researched it quite a bit. This was James Richardson at the University of Nevada, Reno. Quite a tragedy for the mothers, fathers, kids, and friends of these people. James T. Richardson - Wikipedia

Villager Joyce 05-30-2017 12:10 PM
The Golden Rule comes to mind.

Steve9930 05-30-2017 12:11 PM
Always be thoughtful and polite but if you don't like what people say then just do not hang out with these people, that is your choice. The PC culture goes astray when they believe their vue is morally superior and acts to silence the individual.

justjim 05-30-2017 12:13 PM
"My basic rule is that if something I say will hurt another person, I try not to say it". Redwich, call it what you want, I like that.

Taltarzac725 05-30-2017 12:40 PM
I just use the Ignore List quite a lot. I do peek once in a while with the View Post feature available after you put someone on your Ignore List.

If you are on the information highway you will encounter the Good Samaritan like Redwitch and others but also those full of road rage, very slow drivers, very fast drivers, and accidents I often have trouble not looking at quite a bit.

And hope that the Moderator takes those drivers on the information off who break a lot of the rules of the road.

ColdNoMore 05-30-2017 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1404785)
This is a hot button for many. They see being politically correct as an infringement of free speech. I can't say I'm really PC since I still use male/female descriptive statements. My basic rule is that if something I say will hurt another person, I try not to say it. If that's being PC, then I'll proudly wear that mantle.

I don't take offense when people say they drank the Kool-Aid, it just hurts me. It reminds me of a young man I taught to drive and his death at the hands of his mother in Jonestown. So, yes, I ask that people not use that phrase. Some have understood and don't use it around me. Some think I'm overly sensitive and I should get over it. I just know that if the situation were reversed, I would never use that phrase around that person again.

If I see something hurtful here, I will try to speak up. What others choose to do about my comments is up to them. I'm not trying to shame someone when I make a comment but rather hoping they might see the pain they are causing another and take down or change their wording.

So, be PC or not, but please try to be kind and thoughtful. Whether we like it or not, words hurt, sometimes more than sticks and stones.

And off of this soapbox for now.
A superbly admirable goal...and great post! :bigbow:


While I readily admit that I sometimes succumb and react to those I feel are constantly mean-spirited and let their nastiness show (both overtly and subtly), I am at least honest enough to recognize the irony of my sometimes intolerance...toward those who are consistently intolerant. :shrug:

Bowtorc 05-30-2017 01:16 PM
I agree

golfing eagles 05-30-2017 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1404829)
"My basic rule is that if something I say will hurt another person, I try not to say it". Redwich, call it what you want, I like that.
Good advice, but that is common courtesy. PC has gone way beyond that, with rules for gender self-identification, illegal aliens referred to as "undocumented", and assaults on the American flag. The latest is police cannot call a suspect a suspect, they must refer to them as "community members" Enough is enough.

Steve9930 05-30-2017 02:25 PM
It basicly comes down to this, you can say what you please and I can choose to !isten or not. I also will stand up and defend your right to say what just may turn my stomach.

rubicon 05-30-2017 02:56 PM
"Politically correct" surprise the term "politically"didn't trigger a moderator to move this threat to "political talk"
However, I am glad a moderator has not because Political Talk has a few posters who identify as trolls:D

As to the subject manner First Amendment, Right To Free Speech is guaranteed to to offend someone.

Political correctness has Marxist beginnings meant to suppress free speech..trigger warning, micro-agressions, claims of cultural appropriations can not survive in a democratic society.

Steve9930 05-30-2017 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1404883)
"Politically correct" surprise the term "politically"didn't trigger a moderator to move this threat to "political talk"
However, I am glad a moderator has not because Political Talk has a few posters who identify as trolls:D

As to the subject manner First Amendment, Right To Free Speech is guaranteed to to offend someone.

Political correctness has Marxist beginnings meant to suppress free speech..trigger warning, micro-agressions, claims of cultural appropriations can not survive in a democratic society.
Right on target. Once you start to apply filters to speach, you start to limit freedom of thought. One must also understand that there are consequences to what you say. While the constitution limits the Government's power it does nothing to limit the mob mentality of society.

manaboutown 05-30-2017 05:13 PM
The principles of political correctness have been used by totalitarian regimes such as the Nationalist Socialist party (Nazis) in Germany and the Communist party (Reds) of the USSR to subjugate and control their populaces. I refuse to knuckle under to PC demands and shall continue, for example, to call an illegal alien an illegal alien as that term is most accurately descriptive.

dewilson58 05-30-2017 05:56 PM
Too much PC for me.

Taltarzac725 05-30-2017 07:04 PM
Politically correct to me means that people are all saying the same thing because of fear of some central authority and what that power might do to them. Just being kind to others is quite different.


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