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capecoralbill 06-06-2017 07:26 PM

Oak trees being cut down by the Morse's
 
In the other online news, Villages-newsdotcom, Permits were issued to cut down the Live Oaks at 1304 Debra Dr
Lady Lake, on the Historic side. My god, haven't they decimated Central Florida enough?

fred53 06-06-2017 07:30 PM

Their land, their trees. Personally I don't think they decimated anything, but I'll leave it to those who know nothing about forestry to rant and rave.

Nucky 06-06-2017 07:43 PM

I am almost certain that the trees were in terrible condition. I noticed some very shabby trees on a lot being prepared for a new home. I wouldn't buy a new home with them there. I notice that a high percentage of trees are saved when an old unit is taken out. They seem to be very respectful of the trees and the neighbors when they build.

Carl in Tampa 06-06-2017 07:56 PM

Quit Morse Bashing
 
Trees are a renewable resource.

One good forest fire in California destroys more trees than there are in the entire The Villages. It's not the end of the world. More trees grow.

I have been the victim of planting an oak tree and several years later being told by the local government that although it is on my land and I planted it, I do not have the authority to cut it down, even if it threatens my house.

I am personally fed up with unthinking and unreasonable tree hugging.

I am confident that if the Morse's are cutting down oak trees, they had good reason AND they received the proper permission from local government.

Enough of this Morse bashing.

dbussone 06-06-2017 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1408112)
I am almost certain that the trees were in terrible condition. I noticed some very shabby trees on a lot being prepared for a new home. I wouldn't buy a new home with them there. I notice that a high percentage of trees are saved when an old unit is taken out. They seem to be very respectful of the trees and the neighbors when they build.



Well said.


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dbussone 06-06-2017 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1408114)
Trees are a renewable resource.



One good forest fire in California destroys more trees than there are in the entire The Villages. It's not the end of the world. More trees grow.



I have been the victim of planting an oak tree and several years later being told by the local government that although it is on my land and I planted it, I do not have the authority to cut it down, even if it threatens my house.



I am personally fed up with unthinking and unreasonable tree hugging.



I am confident that if the Morse's are cutting down oak trees, they had good reason AND they received the proper permission from local government.



Enough of this Morse bashing.



Carl - we appreciate your wisdom and forthright comments. Couldn't have said it better.


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JoMar 06-06-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by capecoralbill (Post 1408103)
In the other online news, Villages-newsdotcom, Permits were issued to cut down the Live Oaks at 1304 Debra Dr
Lady Lake, on the Historic side. My god, haven't they decimated Central Florida enough?

If you lived here you would feel differently unless of course you do and feel that since you have yours it's time for them to stop.

Topspinmo 06-06-2017 10:00 PM

if Spanish moss get bad enough it will smother the leaves, without enough leave the tree will loose it branches and eventually die, might take awhile but sooner or later some succumb to the parasite. with all the taxes the developer bring into the counties they pretty much get there way most of the time. just got to jump through few legal hoops.

graciegirl 06-06-2017 10:08 PM

Oak trees really grow fast. We took a ride though Hadley last week and oak trees there have grown significantly in nine years.

I don't know that those oak trees you are concerned with that some claim are from Civil War era is legitimate, but I don't get all weepy over trees.

But we all have our passions.

Topspinmo 06-06-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1408162)
Oak trees really grow fast. We took a ride though Hadley last week and oak trees there have grown significantly in nine years.

I don't know that those oak trees you are concerned with that some claim are from Civil War era is legitimate, but I don't get all weepy over trees.

But we all have our passions.

Hard wood trees usually are slow growers compared to soft wood trees. Oaks are pretty hard on the hardness scale, some can live over 1000 years under the right conditions and no pest, parasite invasion, or man around to cut them down.

Doctommft 06-06-2017 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1408157)
if Spanish moss get bad enough it will smother the leaves, without enough leave the tree will loose it branches and eventually die, might take awhile but sooner or later some succumb to the parasite. with all the taxes the developer bring into the counties they pretty much get there way most of the time. just got to jump through few legal hoops.

I have seen crews thinning the moss and wondered. Thanks for the info.

Carl in Tampa 06-06-2017 10:41 PM

Spanish Moss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1408157)
if Spanish moss get bad enough it will smother the leaves, without enough leave the tree will loose it branches and eventually die, might take awhile but sooner or later some succumb to the parasite. with all the taxes the developer bring into the counties they pretty much get there way most of the time. just got to jump through few legal hoops.

Correct in most respects, except that Spanish Moss is not a parasite. It is a bromeliad—a perennial herb in the pineapple family. Most bromeliads, including Spanish moss, are epiphytes. Epiphytes grow on other plants, but do not rely on them for nutrients. They take nutrients from the air and debris that collects on the plant.

Topspinmo is correct that Spanish Moss can become so thick on a tree that it shades the leaves to the point that it blocks photosynthesis. Then the tree can become stressed and subject to disease.

Back before tree trimming became a major industry in Florida, it was commonplace to have people going door to door and offering to remove the overload of Spanish Moss from your trees for a nominal price. Some did not even climb the tree, but pulled the moss down with very long cane poles.

High school kids did it in Tampa to get spending money.

Regarding the last remark, if I had my way the Morse family could do what they chose with the trees on their property, so they could develop it as they saw fit, with no need for any permits from anyone. I guess it's just my Libertarian side coming to the surface.

mulligan 06-07-2017 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1408157)
if Spanish moss get bad enough it will smother the leaves, without enough leave the tree will loose it branches and eventually die, might take awhile but sooner or later some succumb to the parasite. with all the taxes the developer bring into the counties they pretty much get there way most of the time. just got to jump through few legal hoops.

"Spanish Moss" is neither spanish, nor moss, nor a parasite. Google it

Topspinmo 06-07-2017 07:20 AM

If it ant the tree it's free loader, we all know about free loaders:eclipsee_gold_cup:

golfing eagles 06-07-2017 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fred53 (Post 1408105)
Their land, their trees. Personally I don't think they decimated anything, but I'll leave it to those who know nothing about forestry to rant and rave.

Would those be the same trees that we, as residents, are NOT allowed to cut down?????


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