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TNGary 06-21-2017 08:23 AM

New Lamp Post, Front yard
 
Would like to replace the entire lamp post in the front yard. Any suggestions please regarding:
1) Which one to buy (and where at) that will enable putting the little sign that lights at night on the side that shows name of home owners, plus the main bulb to have a sensor to light at night.
2) Any suggestions regarding a contractor that could remove the old and replace with the new?

Thank you very much

NotGolfer 06-21-2017 08:38 AM

Check with ARC first.......

Beatit 06-22-2017 06:48 AM

Replacing our with the same thing...call Pikes

villagetinker 06-22-2017 07:38 AM

You should not need to replace the lamp post for the lighted address sign. Many of our neighbors have added the lighted signs without replacing the post. The companies either provide a solar powered sign, or one that plugs in and they add a socket at the post. Do a search there are a few companies that provide the lighted address signs, and ask them what is required.
Hope this helps.

KittyKat 06-22-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1414997)
You should not need to replace the lamp post for the lighted address sign. Many of our neighbors have added the lighted signs without replacing the post. The companies either provide a solar powered sign, or one that plugs in and they add a socket at the post. Do a search there are a few companies that provide the lighted address signs, and ask them what is required.
Hope this helps.

I was driving around killing time while our house was being shown and I saw an electrician (don't remember the name on the van) adding some type of receptacle to the lamp post. I assumed the owners were going to add one of those signs.

Wiotte 06-22-2017 11:15 PM

Lighted post sign = tacky nasty yuck


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retiredguy123 06-23-2017 04:34 AM

You can create your own receptacle in the lamp post glass enclosure with two items from Home Depot for about 5 dollars. You need a candelabra-to-regular socket adapter, and a screw-in receptacle. No tools required, but you will lose one of your three light sockets.

graciegirl 06-23-2017 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiotte (Post 1415388)
Lighted post sign = tacky nasty yuck


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There are many lighted signs throughout The Villages in beautiful taste. In fact I can't recall any that are overdone or stand out offensively. Ours isn't lighted and we have admired many nicely lighted name signs.

Please don't try to be the world's authority on everything. That is my job.

photo1902 06-23-2017 06:39 AM

On a somewhat related topic, make sure when adding an electrical outlet to your post, that it's GFCI. A local electrical supply shop (as well as online sources) sells a receptacle that's curved to fit snugly on the pole. Those receptacles ARE NOT GFCI protected, and should not be installed, in my opinion. I installed an appropriate receptacle box on my light post. It's easy to do if you're comfortable doing this type of work. You will also have an option of having the receptacle being always "hot", or having it dusk to dawn, like your lamp post light. This is accomplished by wiring it before or after the photocell. If you go the route of installing the curved non-GFCI receptacle, my recommendation would be to replace the existing breaker with a GFCI breaker. In full disclosure, I'm not an electrician.

retiredguy123 06-23-2017 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1415458)
On a somewhat related topic, make sure when adding an electrical outlet to your post, that it's GFCI. A local electrical supply shop (as well as online sources) sells a receptacle that's curved to fit snugly on the pole. Those receptacles ARE NOT GFCI protected, and should not be installed, in my opinion. I installed an appropriate receptacle box on my light post. It's easy to do if you're comfortable doing this type of work. You will also have an option of having the receptacle being always "hot", or having it dusk to dawn, like your lamp post light. This is accomplished by wiring it before or after the photocell. If you go the route of installing the curved non-GFCI receptacle, my recommendation would be to replace the existing breaker with a GFCI breaker. In full disclosure, I'm not an electrician.

My lamp post light is already wired to a circuit in the garage that has a gfci device on one of the receptacles in the garage. I believe that is the way the new houses are being constructed. So, anything you connect to the lamp post wiring will be protected.

photo1902 06-23-2017 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1415462)
My lamp post light is already wired to a circuit in the garage that has a gfci device on one of the receptacles in the garage. I believe that is the way the new houses are being constructed. So, anything you connect to the lamp post wiring will be protected.

Im not aware of that scenario. It would be good if it was. On my home, built late 2013, the Post Light is on its own 15amp circuit, non-GFCI. Another important feature for a post receptacle is an In Use Weatherproof Cover.

retiredguy123 06-23-2017 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1415594)
Im not aware of that scenario. It would be good if it was. On my home, built late 2013, the Post Light is on its own 15amp circuit, non-GFCI. Another important feature for a post receptacle is an In Use Weatherproof Cover.

I know that the courtyard villas south of 466a have a wall receptacle in the garage that has a gfci device with a push button reset, and the same circuit feeds the lamp post. Unless you are certain, you may want to check your garage wall receptacles. If you don't have the same arrangement, you have an unprotected lamp post, regardless of whether or not you install a receptacle on the post, unless you add some type of gfci device on that circuit. So, a short in the wiring to the lamp could cause a safety problem, even without a receptacle.

photo1902 06-23-2017 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1415630)
I know that the courtyard villas south of 466a have a wall receptacle in the garage that has a gfci device with a push button reset, and the same circuit feeds the lamp post. Unless you are certain, you may want to check your garage wall receptacles. If you don't have the same arrangement, you have an unprotected lamp post, regardless of whether or not you install a receptacle on the post, unless you add some type of gfci device on that circuit. So, a short in the wiring to the lamp could cause a safety problem, even without a receptacle.

I live south of 466A (Lake Deaton). The lamp posts in this area have a dedicated, non GFCI breaker. This circuit has nothing to do with the garage outlets, and only controls the lamp post. The garage outlets are on GFCI's, in fact the breaker panel labels indicate this fact. The receptacle box I installed on the lamp post is an outdoor rated box, and GFCI receptacle. In addition, I also installed an In-Use cover. For those not familiar, a quick Google search will show it. I don't have an unprotected circuit, hence the GFCI receptacle I placed on the post. Bottom line, is that if you do it yourself make darn sure you know what you're doing. In the case of a few neighbors who had another neighbor install a non- GFCI receptacle on their posts to save a few bucks on an electrician, hopefully they'll never be plugging in holiday lights, or a vacuum in a wet weather or other situation which could cause a shock.

villagetinker 06-23-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1415594)
Im not aware of that scenario. It would be good if it was. On my home, built late 2013, the Post Light is on its own 15amp circuit, non-GFCI. Another important feature for a post receptacle is an In Use Weatherproof Cover.

Check the circuit breaker, it maybe a GFCI breaker, our house built in 2013 has the post lamp connected to one of the circuits in the garage that are on GFCI receptacles. I also know that several of the neighbors are the same.
It my understanding that this (GFCI) is a requirement for ALL outdoor, garage, or receptacles located near water. If yours is not wired this way, call home warranty, and have it fixed.

photo1902 06-24-2017 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1415745)
Check the circuit breaker, it maybe a GFCI breaker, our house built in 2013 has the post lamp connected to one of the circuits in the garage that are on GFCI receptacles. I also know that several of the neighbors are the same.
It my understanding that this (GFCI) is a requirement for ALL outdoor, garage, or receptacles located near water. If yours is not wired this way, call home warranty, and have it fixed.

NEC requires outdoor and garage receptacles be GFCI protected. A lamp post without a receptacle (like those installed here in TV) doesn't need do be on a GFCI. If you installed a receptacle, make sure it is a GfCI.


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