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tcxr750 07-26-2017 09:26 AM

Congress and America is waiting
 
Congress is waiting for a bill from the President to put trillions into repairing and replacing our deteriorating national infrastructure. Tens of thousands of jobs would be created.
Meanwhile, in China they are moving forward to make China a leader in Asia, the Pacific and the world. They are spending billions on technology. Look at the American companies in China and the Chinese companies in America helping to achieve those goals.

Chi-Town 07-26-2017 09:41 AM

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Congress is waiting for a bill from the President to put trillions into repairing and replacing our deteriorating national infrastructure. Tens of thousands of jobs would be created.
Meanwhile, in China they are moving forward to make China a leader in Asia, the Pacific and the world. They are spending billions on technology. Look at the American companies in China and the Chinese companies in America helping to achieve those goals.

Can one tweet a bill?

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refeik 07-26-2017 10:02 AM

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Congress is waiting for a bill from the President to put trillions into repairing and replacing our deteriorating national infrastructure. Tens of thousands of jobs would be created.
Meanwhile, in China they are moving forward to make China a leader in Asia, the Pacific and the world. They are spending billions on technology. Look at the American companies in China and the Chinese companies in America helping to achieve those goals.

Obama tried for eight years to get a "works bill" approved . It is desperately needed and would be great for our economy !!

Don Baldwin 07-26-2017 11:26 AM

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Obama tried for eight years to get a "works bill" approved . It is desperately needed and would be great for our economy !!

Put the half of the black population who collect government benefits to work. And they'll scream slavery! THAT is why it's possible to collect $60,000 a year in benefits without doing a thing to "earn" it. We can't MAKE them do ANYTHING...it's too reminding of slavery.

At LEAST have them clean up their own neighborhoods!

dbussone 07-26-2017 01:13 PM

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Obama tried for eight years to get a "works bill" approved . It is desperately needed and would be great for our economy !!



Obama blew his chance. Don't you remember the $1 trillion shovel ready stimulus package. It disappeared into the black hole of political slush funds. You're thinking about the 2nd go around he asked for, but never saw.




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Rockyrd 07-26-2017 04:37 PM

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Obama blew his chance. Don't you remember the $1 trillion shovel ready stimulus package. It disappeared into the black hole of political slush funds. You're thinking about the 2nd go around he asked for, but never saw.




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Actually not true.....the link below gives you a dollar by dollar accounting of where the money went; not a political slush fund among the spending.

The Stimulus Plan: A Detailed List of Spending - ProPublica

This link to a Times article critiquing the program can explain some of the difficulty involved...

"THE polarized rhetoric of the 2012 election cycle presents voters with a false choice of whether the government can create jobs or should just get out of the way. The real debate should be about which policies work and which don’t.

I spent three years reporting on the $840 billion stimulus plan that the Obama administration pushed through Congress in 2009. My conclusion: government can create jobs — it just doesn’t often do it well.

The stimulus — a historic package of tax cuts, safety-net spending, infrastructure projects and green-energy investments — certainly did a lot of good. As the economists Alan S. Blinder and Mark Zandi have noted, it’s one of the key reasons the unemployment rate isn’t in double digits now.


How the Stimulus Fell Short - The New York Times

This is part of that article and details the problem with the actual definition of "shovel ready"

"The problem with most of the projects was that the Obama administration and Congress had defined “shovel ready” too broadly. The original plan called for putting “shovels in the ground” within 90 days. But when the rules were written, states ended up with 120 days to have their road projects “approved.” It often took six more months to a year before most of the projects were under construction."


It helped a lot, the Stimulus bill and was needed, but to say it went to "disappeared into the black hole of political slush funds" is very very short sighted and uninformed.

I am not about to defend Obama on this at all, but recall the spending was done by a completely Republican controlled congress. They both, administration and congress share blame, but it was not sent to some political slush fund. That kind of talk is usually reserved for the extreme websites on both sides.

Paper1 07-26-2017 08:13 PM

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Congress is waiting for a bill from the President to put trillions into repairing and replacing our deteriorating national infrastructure. Tens of thousands of jobs would be created.
Meanwhile, in China they are moving forward to make China a leader in Asia, the Pacific and the world. They are spending billions on technology. Look at the American companies in China and the Chinese companies in America helping to achieve those goals.

O yes, the infrastructure bill. Dems and Republicans will come together and spend a trillion dollars of our grandchildrens futures and the over 50 crowd will cheer them on. Nothing brings Americans together quicker than a big deficiet spending bill. Why not raise gas taxes $1.00 and pay our own way?

Rockyrd 07-26-2017 08:19 PM

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O yes, the infrastructure bill. Dems and Republicans will come together and spend a trillion dollars of our grandchildrens futures and the over 50 crowd will cheer them on. Nothing brings Americans together quicker than a big deficiet spending bill. Why not raise gas taxes $1.00 and pay our own way?

If anyone thinks this President is a conservative who will trim and balance the budget, think again.

Maybe a bigger fight than health care will be the budget and spending bill.

tcxr750 07-31-2017 03:33 PM

A few years ago someone in Congress suggested that an additional tax on gas (less than a dollar?) would provide the resources needed to provide money for infrastructure rebuilding. Delaying the process will allow China to surpass America in the coming years.
American business gave a third world country billions to save the cost of American labor. The Chinese begged, borrowed and stole the technology needed in over 50 years to surpass us. This transfer of wealth and power was a unified effort unfettered by democrats or republicans.

Don Baldwin 07-31-2017 05:19 PM

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A few years ago someone in Congress suggested that an additional tax on gas (less than a dollar?) would provide the resources needed to provide money for infrastructure rebuilding. Delaying the process will allow China to surpass America in the coming years.
American business gave a third world country billions to save the cost of American labor. The Chinese begged, borrowed and stole the technology needed in over 50 years to surpass us. This transfer of wealth and power was a unified effort unfettered by democrats or republicans.

Someone wants America to go down...it's the only reason we were allowed...encouraged...to become just another 3rd world country. Well...we will be 3rd world soon. About 30 years...maybe 50...but that's it. When white people are 20% of the country..."America" will no longer exist. "American culture", that fake sh!t you see on TV and in the magazines may still exist...but "America" will be gone. We will be speaking Spanish and living in a Mexico II.

billethkid 07-31-2017 05:40 PM

Everybody seems to have allowed congress a pass. The biggest obstructionist, do nothing, politics as usual, no accountability, old men and women who have peter principaled long....LONG, long ago.

They are the problem....both parties...Chuck Shummer/Mitch McConnel.......waxed faced do nothing incompetents.

Don Baldwin 07-31-2017 09:03 PM

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Everybody seems to have allowed congress a pass. The biggest obstructionist, do nothing, politics as usual, no accountability, old men and women who have peter principaled long....LONG, long ago.

They are the problem....both parties...Chuck Shummer/Mitch McConnel.......waxed faced do nothing incompetents.

Hardly...they bring plenty of money back to those who helped him get elected. The federal government spends over $4 trillion a year...who do you think ends up with most of it? The ultra wealthy who call the shots. Even direct welfare to the poor eventually ends up in their pockets through their corporations. You may own shares...but they own the board.


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