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wjboyer1 08-07-2017 02:02 PM

Many Politicians Lie. But Trump Has Elevated the Art of Fabrication.
 
Many Politicians Lie. But Trump Has Elevated the Art of Fabrication. - The New York Times

Rockyrd 08-07-2017 02:08 PM

Be careful.....very careful.

You cite the New York Times and according to the President, they lie and are failing....that was right before he used to to credit a personal slam at a political opponent !!! That happened this morning by the way.

ALSO, it appears from posts on here that presenting facts is not acceptable.......filthy mouths are.....criticizing the President is not acceptable.....labeling and accusing is with no substantiation.....pointing out with links a non truth is not acceptable......conspiracy theories are just fine.

"From his days peddling the false notion that former President Barack Obama was born in Kenya, to his inflated claims about how many people attended his inaugural, to his description just last week of receiving two phone calls — one from the president of Mexico and another from the head of the Boy Scouts — that never happened, Mr. Trump is trafficking in hyperbole, distortion and fabrication on practically a daily basis.

This is from your link.......BUT........those who oppose such things are "destroying american values"

Rockyrd 08-07-2017 02:19 PM

Since I am aware that most do not read links given although they present the most positive thing about being here......

If your read this para graph from that link, it makes clear that Trump is certainly not the first person to lie from the White House, but is unique in the scope and quantity.

"In part, this represents yet another way that Mr. Trump is operating on his own terms, but it also reflects a broader decline in standards of truth for political discourse. A look at politicians over the past half-century makes it clear that lying in office did not begin with Donald J. Trump. Still, the scope of Mr. Trump’s falsehoods raises questions about whether the brakes on straying from the truth and the consequences for politicians’ being caught saying things that just are not true have diminished over time."

And the standard used on here to make all of Trump lies okay is Obama saying how you can keep your plan, etc.....well, most times you dont get the full context...

"In 2013, the website PolitiFact declared that Mr. Obama had uttered the “lie of the year” when he told Americans that if they liked their health care plan they could keep it. (Mr. Trump won “lie of the year” in 2015.)

"I thought it was unfair at the time, and I still think it’s unfair,” Ms. Dunn said, referring to Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama later apologized to people who were forced off their plans “despite assurances from me.”


And while BTK said it was "disgusting" that we did not talk about North Korea on here, and found it scary, even though there was a thread about it....

"The glaring difference between Mr. Trump and his predecessors is the sheer magnitude of falsehoods and exaggerations; PolitiFact rates just 20 percent of the statements it reviewed as true, and a total of 69 percent either mostly false, false or “Pants on Fire.” That leaves scholars like Ms. Goodwin to wonder whether Mr. Trump, in elevating the art of political fabrication, has forever changed what Americans are willing to tolerate from their leaders.

“What’s different today and what’s scarier today is these lies are pointed out, and there’s evidence that they’re wrong,” she said. “And yet because of the attacks on the media, there are a percentage of people in the country who are willing to say, ‘Maybe he is telling the truth.’”



THAT is what folks have been saying....he knows how to play the con man game.....he attacks the media with no substantiation and thus you folks believe him. A great con man for sure.

ColdNoMore 08-07-2017 06:42 PM

At this point, if Trumps said the sun rises in the east...you should hedge your bets and being looking west.


YES, he really IS that big of a liar. :oops:

Taltarzac725 08-07-2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest
At this point, if Trumps said the sun rises in the east...you should hedge your bets and being looking west.


YES, he really IS that big of a liar. :oops:

Or that the Statue of Liberty is Russian.

Don Baldwin 08-07-2017 09:24 PM

Quote:

Posted by Guest
At this point, if Trumps said the sun rises in the east...you should hedge your bets and being looking west.


YES, he really IS that big of a liar. :oops:

You should do that with ALL government.


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