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Humdinger 10-29-2017 03:22 PM

Piriformis Syndrome
 
I have suffered from this piriformis syndrome March of 2015. Tried oral cortisone which did nothing, tried physical therapy which basically did nothing and tried a chiropractor with no relief. Deep tissue massage was very uncomfortable and did not help either. Started seeing a physiatrist 1 year ago and had several treatments of robotic massage with no help and in January 2017 had my first cortisone injection with some relief. Since then have had 3 more cortisone injections with one being very helpful and the last 2 very little relief. Have decided to get a second opinion but not sure what type of doctor to see. Anyone have any input into this?

menthol01 10-29-2017 03:56 PM

Try a different Physical Therapist. Someone who can look at your posture, gait, activities and has expertise in manual therapy techniques such as muscle energy, cranio- sacral, or mobilization. I live up North so I am not familiar with the P.T.'s in or around TV to make a specific recommendation. Good luck, hang in there!

FMF Doc 10-29-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Humdinger (Post 1468024)
I have suffered from this piriformis syndrome March of 2015. Tried oral cortisone which did nothing, tried physical therapy which basically did nothing and tried a chiropractor with no relief. Deep tissue massage was very uncomfortable and did not help either. Started seeing a physiatrist 1 year ago and had several treatments of robotic massage with no help and in January 2017 had my first cortisone injection with some relief. Since then have had 3 more cortisone injections with one being very helpful and the last 2 very little relief. Have decided to get a second opinion but not sure what type of doctor to see. Anyone have any input into this?

Cranial sacral therapy may help combined with massage that involves stretching. Try some gentle yoga.

Did you receive any advice on stretches that would help?

George

784caroline 10-29-2017 04:16 PM

I developed bad siatica while playing pickelball. When to see a PT and he put me on a table, laid face down and he gets almost on top of you and pressed real hard in the cheeks of my Butt...not once not twice but a couple of times until he hit the spot and I jumped...He said no problem I know what you have and put me on home exercises plus machine exercises at PT along with some in PT Butt massages. 4 weeks later all gone but he told me to continue with the excercises...piriformis syndrome can be very painful.

autumnspring 10-29-2017 04:21 PM

Not sure why you would post here
 
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Originally Posted by Humdinger (Post 1468024)
I have suffered from this piriformis syndrome March of 2015. Tried oral cortisone which did nothing, tried physical therapy which basically did nothing and tried a chiropractor with no relief. Deep tissue massage was very uncomfortable and did not help either. Started seeing a physiatrist 1 year ago and had several treatments of robotic massage with no help and in January 2017 had my first cortisone injection with some relief. Since then have had 3 more cortisone injections with one being very helpful and the last 2 very little relief. Have decided to get a second opinion but not sure what type of doctor to see. Anyone have any input into this?

Not sure why you would post here perhaps out of desperation.

I am only replying because I've suffered from serious back pain for the past four years. So I sort of feel your pain.

RE: Cortisone
It is a steroid and it is normal to get diminishing returns. Also, there is a limit to how often you SHOULD take it.

Opioids-frankly used to be prescribed like candy. As you surely know, the doctors have a large BLAME for people getting themselves addicted. HOPE YOU'VE NOT GONE DOWN THAT PATH.

I see you've tried chiropractic and massage-I did the same. Both of them are an ART-You might want to try another practitioner. I went to a massage place and they had all the TOYS-they did me NO GOOD. Another guy used only his hands and something that looked like a spoon-WOW I GOT RELIEF FOR SEVERAL DAYS-A MIRACLE.

I've not tried it but the other thing people use is acupuncture.

HOPE I'VE BEEN SOME HELP

Boomer 10-29-2017 05:45 PM

Humdinger,

Is it possible that you do not have the correct diagnosis?

A synovial cyst in the lumbar spine can cause some of the same symptoms as piriformis syndrome. A synovial cyst will not show up on an x-ray. Diagnosis requires an MRI.

Synovial cysts are benign and are termed rare. But I think it is possible that synovial cysts are more under-diagnosed than rare because insurance companies discourage MRIs.

These cysts form from synovial fluid and can occur as we age and the space between the spinal discs narrows. A synovial cyst in the lumbar area can grow to compress nerves -- causing pain, sometimes excruciating and constant, in the butt and legs. (On an x-ray, the spine itself might not show degeneration to the point of explaining the intensity of the pain so treatment proceeds without the knowledge that a synovial cyst exists. Without an MRI, this approach can go on for a long time, while time is lost and pain increases.)

Sometimes aspiration of the cyst can drain fluid, but if the cyst has hardened, surgery may be necessary. It is a tiny incision. This surgery should be done by a neurosurgeon because, after all, this is spinal cord territory.

Please Google synovial cyst and you will find some legitimate medical sources for details. With that information, you then can decide if what I am saying is a possibility to discuss with your doctor.

You have been hurting for a long time. If a synovial cyst is the culprit, physical therapy and massages can't fix it. But a good neurosurgeon can.

paulat585 10-30-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 784caroline (Post 1468042)
I developed bad siatica while playing pickelball. When to see a PT and he put me on a table, laid face down and he gets almost on top of you and pressed real hard in the cheeks of my Butt...not once not twice but a couple of times until he hit the spot and I jumped...He said no problem I know what you have and put me on home exercises plus machine exercises at PT along with some in PT Butt massages. 4 weeks later all gone but he told me to continue with the excercises...piriformis syndrome can be very painful.

Can you tell me which PT you saw & where? I've had this since 2010. Very painful. Have had different treatments with stretching helping the most, but it comes back after I sit. Would like to get off pain pills. Thanks.

jnieman 10-30-2017 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 784caroline (Post 1468042)
I developed bad siatica while playing pickelball. When to see a PT and he put me on a table, laid face down and he gets almost on top of you and pressed real hard in the cheeks of my Butt...not once not twice but a couple of times until he hit the spot and I jumped...He said no problem I know what you have and put me on home exercises plus machine exercises at PT along with some in PT Butt massages. 4 weeks later all gone but he told me to continue with the excercises...piriformis syndrome can be very painful.

Hi:
Can you recommend the name of your Physical Therapist? and where located?

Thanks,
Judy

784caroline 10-30-2017 10:48 AM

I went to this PT over 5 years ago and unfortunately I cannot find his information. I will continue to look for it...Sorry!

Bethinflorida 10-30-2017 02:39 PM

my doctor has worked wonders for my sciatica and piriformis syndrome.
i think he is the best around, and was recently awarded the best physician in the tri county are
by the peoples choice awards for the daily commercial...he is caring, knowledgeable and understanding of the condition.

DigitalGranny 10-30-2017 05:29 PM

In my case, a very strange kind of stretch has provided piriformis syndrome relief. It's very difficult for most folks to do unless your hips are very limber. There is actually a device sold to help you do the right stretch if your hips are not limber, but I don't need it. Nothing else has helped me except this weird stretch. Lie on your back on bed with your knees pulled up,and your feet flat on the bed. Now can you drop your knee to the side, twist your lower leg as you raise your foot and grab it in your opposite hand? Then with both hands pull your foot and knee towards your chest. Just a couple of inches makes the difference. Stretch and rest about five times. Do this every morning and night. Sincerely hope it helps you. Piriformis feels like sitting on a knitting needle. Please check with your doctor first. I am not a medical professional!

Mudder 11-01-2017 07:59 AM

The thing about Piriformis Syndrome is that pain reduction is an ongoing process, you need to do the work. The exercise that digitalgranny described is excellent. That combed with icing once or twice a day and also water walking will help a lot. I have been the route of original poster, however the robot therapy and deep hip injection has made me 90% better. Now it’s up to me. Sometimes after you attain the knowledge you just have to use it. Truthfully I find the water walking is wonderful, I can walk for an hour in pool but can’t walk 100 yards on land without pain.

fourandrew 11-01-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Humdinger (Post 1468024)
I have suffered from this piriformis syndrome March of 2015. Tried oral cortisone which did nothing, tried physical therapy which basically did nothing and tried a chiropractor with no relief. Deep tissue massage was very uncomfortable and did not help either. Started seeing a physiatrist 1 year ago and had several treatments of robotic massage with no help and in January 2017 had my first cortisone injection with some relief. Since then have had 3 more cortisone injections with one being very helpful and the last 2 very little relief. Have decided to get a second opinion but not sure what type of doctor to see. Anyone have any input into this?

No Pun, but I do feel your pain.===I suffered Piriformis Syndrome for about 8 years--it was mis diagnosed, then I had Physical Therapy (a waste of time and money) injections of saline into the piriformis muscle to help release the tension--finally during hip replacement surgery, the piriformis muscle tendon was cut to release the pressure---I see the following doctor for an unrelated problem, but I would recomend him. His name is Dr. Brad Homan, Celebration Orthopaedic Sports Medicine--very good--and is familiar with Piriformis Syndrome 321 939-0222. My wife thought I was crazy living with the piriformis pain--but it is real. good luck

NotGolfer 11-02-2017 11:40 AM

I thought I had low back/spinal issues...went the gamut of an MRI, pain dr./steroid shots (didn't help at all) until I saw the folks at All Coast Physical Therapy in the Oakwood complex on 441. They looked at the MRI and told me my pain (which was significant) wasn't spinal but soft tissue. I went to them for 6 or 8 wks and the pain disappeared. Yes there is a stretching you can do for this at home but I would start with someone who knows what they're doing. I thought I was having bad sciatica and it wasn't that at all. Google P.S. on the internet too as there's a lot of info re: it there!

Humdinger 11-06-2017 01:44 PM

Who is your doctor??


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