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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-06-2017 11:03 AM

Deep Cleaning, always a scam?
 
I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.

Wiotte 12-06-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1485940)
I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.



I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.



I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.



My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.



I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.



I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.



Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.



Any cavity can be see with an X-ray. It’s a scam.



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dewilson58 12-06-2017 11:27 AM

Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:

Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.

A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.

Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.

Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.

dewilson58 12-06-2017 11:28 AM

I "enjoy" a deep cleaning.
Not exactly enjoyable during, but after I'm very glad.

Challenger 12-06-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1485940)
I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays.

I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling.

I was having work done at another dentist but got tired of driving an hour to Ocala so I thought I'd try someone new. My wife began going there and she likes them.

My dentist in Ocala never mentioned anything about deep cleaning. The dentist at LSD says that he can't tell if I have any cavities until the heavy stains are removed. That sounds absurd to me. My Ocala dentist was able to see minor decay from the x-rays.

I now that some people on here have recommended Lake Sumter, but I got really concerned when they mentioned "deep cleaning" which I've often heard is a scam.

I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated.

Dr Maria Luong- Serenity Dental Spa
No such nonsense . Integrity, skill, great office staff,
fair pricing. Wife and I have been with her for 6 yrs. Extensive work for both. Totally satisfied.

Every cleaning is a "deep cleaning" More a marketing term than an actual procedure.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-06-2017 11:41 AM

Sorry, the name of the place is Sumter Landing Dental and the dentist's name is David Price.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-06-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1485953)
Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:

Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.

A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.

Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.

Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.

Are you a dentist? If all this is true, why did my Ocala dentist not have any problem seeing what is going on?

Barefoot 12-06-2017 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1485940)
I went to Lake Sumter Dentistry yesterday for my free exam and x-rays. I was told that I needed a deep cleaning and root scaling. I made an appointment for this deep cleaning, but I intend to cancel it.

If you've ever had periodontal issues, the deep cleaning may be needed.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 12-06-2017 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1485957)
I "enjoy" a deep cleaning.
Not exactly enjoyable during, but after I'm very glad.

They're also talking about root scaling.

dewilson58 12-06-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1485964)
Are you a dentist? If all this is true, why did my Ocala dentist not have any problem seeing what is going on?

Maybe your dentist didn't see "what is going on".

All I said was CONSIDER.


Thought you said, "Any opinions or suggestion would be appreciated. "
Guess not.

Barefoot 12-06-2017 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1485953)
Not sure if ANY cavity can be seen. Consider:
Dental x-rays are not perfect detection tools. They are just that—tools. That means that occasionally you could have a condition that does not readily show itself in our digital imaging.
A few explanations may be accurate. First, your cavity may be so small it did not show up on your dental x-rays. A very small cavity has not yet caused enough damage to be visible through x-ray technology.
Secondly, your cavity could be hiding behind an existing filling. When you get decay near an existing filling, we call this secondary decay. Fillings are opaque and may actually block out part of your tooth from being x-rayed, rendering it invisible.
Thirdly, your teeth could overlap. If you have very close teeth, taking an x-ray without overlap may be impossible. Additionally, when you have very close teeth, getting decay between them is more likely.

Dr. Boogie
Don't shoot the messenger.

perrjojo 12-06-2017 12:20 PM

I have worked in the dental field for many years and yes, a deep cleaning and root planing are often needed. I cannot say whether YOU need it or not. Some dentist are more aggressive in this area and some use it to increase revenue. Perhaps you should get another opinion. Another poster suggest Dr Maria Luong and I must second that recommendation. Many people need a deep cleaning and it is not a scam but if you don’t need it...well it will only hurt your pocket book.

birdiebill 12-06-2017 12:26 PM

All deep cleanings are not a scam. Periodontal disease starts around the necks of teeth as gingivitis or an inflammation of the gingival tissues (gums). Gingivitis usually causes slightly enlarged gums, often reddened in color and often bleeding especially when brushing or flossing. Gingivitis can usually be treated by a routine dental cleaning, improved efficiency of tooth brushing, and effective flossing of the teeth. Sometimes oral rinses are indicated. Gingivitis is caused by bacteria that reside in the dental plaque that accumulates on our teeth. Gingivitis is diagnosed by a clinical exam that includes periodontal probing around the teeth.

Deep cleaning, which includes root planing (root scaling) is indicated if periodontal probing around the necks of the teeth discovers "pockets" between the gingival (gum) tissue and the root surface of the teeth and/or if the probing elicits bleeding or discovers calculus (tartar) on the surface of the root in the pocket. A pocket is a deepened space between the gum tissue and the root surface. Deepened space means more than three or four millimeters in depth. "Pockets" are caused by inflammation due to bacterial plaque accumulation on the root surface and on the calculus A pocket is discovered by periodontal probing. As "pockets" grow deeper from periodontal disease, bone loss occurs around the roots of the teeth. A Periodontist is a dental specialist that treats periodontal disease and other periodontal conditions.

I would ask why the deep cleaning/root scaling is necessary. The indications are the presence of one or more of the following: pockets with or without bone loss, bleeding on probing, and/or detectable plaque or calculus on the root surface in the pocket.

Ingenuity 12-06-2017 12:40 PM

It is not a scam. As we get older, gums recede. The deep cleaning and scaling will slow the process. I finally had one 2 years ago and very glad I did. No other dentist ever suggested it. It was not pleasant and they found several pockets even though I did not have one cavity. This is a gum procedure. I am going to research your new dentist and may have them do another deep cleaning and scaling.

rubicon 12-06-2017 01:15 PM

There are many goals, as people, that we all share irrespective of our ideologies, national origin, etc.

One of those shared goals is that we all work to leave this earth with as many body parts intact as possible. that said

No one so far as mentioned "pockets" Dentist/hygienist measure pockets in the gums 4+ measurement is a concern and hence a recommendation for scaling/deep cleaning is recommence and should continue until the pockets have been reduced

Mt dentist retired a year ago. My dental hygienist was the best i ever met. she left because the dentist retired. the new dental office was horrible so I moved to a dentist in Lake Sumter Landing. My wife likes the clinic, I do not and its not because they are doing more is because they appear to be doing less and I want to leave this earth with my teeth intact

P.S. I am not a dentist:D


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