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rubicon 12-10-2017 10:51 AM

What A Sensible Move
 
There is a moratorium on building in Osceola County in order to provide government leaders an opportunity to review the impact and to make changes to the pattern of future building. The county recognizes that its infrastructure is insufficient to maintain its present rate of growth.

Florida voters were given an opportunity to vote on such moratoriums in 2010 but the lobby for realtors and developers kicked into high gear and side tracked the initiative.

Sumter county is governed by Sumter One. Sumter One lives to serve the Developer. Sumter One repeal was on the ballot in 2010. the developer kicked into high gear and derailed the initiative.

When the population growth finally settles it will require massive changes in infrastructure, maintenance etc and with that will come ever increasing taxes.

So enjoy the ride now but as the guy on television said "you can pay me now or you can pay me later."

This is not a complaint its an observational fact

graciegirl 12-10-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1487771)
There is a moratorium on building in Osceola County in order to provide government leaders an opportunity to review the impact and to make changes to the pattern of future building. The county recognizes that its infrastructure is insufficient to maintain its present rate of growth.

Florida voters were given an opportunity to vote on such moratoriums in 2010 but the lobby for realtors and developers kicked into high gear and side tracked the initiative.

Sumter county is governed by Sumter One. Sumter One lives to serve the Developer. Sumter One repeal was on the ballot in 2010. the developer kicked into high gear and derailed the initiative.

When the population growth finally settles it will require massive changes in infrastructure, maintenance etc and with that will come ever increasing taxes.

So enjoy the ride now but as the guy on television said "you can pay me now or you can pay me later."

This is not a complaint its an observational fact

When the population growth finally settles, after all the Boomers have retired at ten thousand a day for the next 13 years, most of us will be in The Village of Heavenly. (MOST of us)

rubicon 12-10-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1487778)
I disagree about your evaluation.

In all due respect, that was a given. Some of us moved away in part because we wanted to get way from big city living, crowds, traffic, etc. It seems however big city living is being foisted upon us and we don't even get to vote on it.

Cést' la vie

graciegirl 12-10-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1487782)
In all due respect, that was a given. some of us moved away in part because we wanted to get way from big city living, crowds, traffic, etc. It seems however big city living is being foisted upon us.

cést'la vie

And some of us think that what is happening is very good here. Except the gorging of population that occurs all over Florida at this time of the year until the end of March,with people who visit who don't own here or have ties to The Villages.

Disclaimer. I am not speaking of property owners known as snowbirds, snowflakes or Fruitflies. (Those who own in Fruitland park area)

rubicon 12-10-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1487786)
And some of us think that what is happening is very good here. Except the gorging of population that occurs all over Florida at this time of the year until the end of March,with people who visit who don't own here or have ties to The Villages.

Disclaimer. I am not speaking of property owners known as snowbirds, snowflakes or Fruitflies. (Those who own in Fruitland park area)

Perhaps we can at least agree that about the year 2007 the adjective "quaint" loss all of its attractive meaning as respects The Villages?

Personal Best Regards:

kaseydog 12-10-2017 11:29 AM

what a sensible move
 
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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1487771)
There is a moratorium on building in Osceola County in order to provide government leaders an opportunity to review the impact and to make changes to the pattern of future building. The county recognizes that its infrastructure is insufficient to maintain its present rate of growth.

Florida voters were given an opportunity to vote on such moratoriums in 2010 but the lobby for realtors and developers kicked into high gear and side tracked the initiative.

Sumter county is governed by Sumter One. Sumter One lives to serve the Developer. Sumter One repeal was on the ballot in 2010. the developer kicked into high gear and derailed the initiative.

When the population growth finally settles it will require massive changes in infrastructure, maintenance etc and with that will come ever increasing taxes.

So enjoy the ride now but as the guy on television said "you can pay me now or you can pay me later."

This is not a complaint its an observational fact

What is Sumter One?

rubicon 12-10-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blicata (Post 1487802)
What is Sumter One?

Sumter One essentially kept all 5 County Commissioner reporting /meeting here in The Villages . The concern- fear- allegation is that all 5 county commissioners would act on behalf of the developer first vis a vis their respective territory within the county.

Indeed the Developer campaigned aggressively in 2010 to have Sumter One vote on repeal failed.

My view at the time was to ensure that each county commissioner have not even the mere appearance of conflict of interest with their duties to the residents residing in their respective county territory . And that everyone was assured that each commissioner was working on behalf of the needs in their respective corners of the county and meeting the needs of the people residing there.

Personal Best Regards:

CFrance 12-10-2017 11:51 AM

And this?: One Sumter: let the games begin

kaseydog 12-10-2017 01:11 PM

Thank you for your quick reply.

graciegirl 12-10-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1487820)

Please let it be noted that the above is an opinion piece.

My opinion is that The Villages is run far better as a CDD than it would with input from all of the people who would like to run it who have never been involved in Civic Government. Then we would all be using the word "MESS" a lot.

CDD forever as far as I am concerned. I don't want the inmates running the asylum. We have seen how that works by just looking at other areas the same size run in the "ordinary" way.

angiefox10 12-10-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1487771)
There is a moratorium on building in Osceola County in order to provide government leaders an opportunity to review the impact and to make changes to the pattern of future building. The county recognizes that its infrastructure is insufficient to maintain its present rate of growth.

Florida voters were given an opportunity to vote on such moratoriums in 2010 but the lobby for realtors and developers kicked into high gear and side tracked the initiative.

Sumter county is governed by Sumter One. Sumter One lives to serve the Developer. Sumter One repeal was on the ballot in 2010. the developer kicked into high gear and derailed the initiative.

When the population growth finally settles it will require massive changes in infrastructure, maintenance etc and with that will come ever increasing taxes.

So enjoy the ride now but as the guy on television said "you can pay me now or you can pay me later."

This is not a complaint its an observational fact

It also means that people who do not live in The Villages, but live in Sumter County, have no say in what goes on in Sumter County .

We live in a "bubble" and all we see is what we are allowed to see. So if there is a need outside our bubble, it will not get addressed because.... well.... we live in a bubble and One Sumter.

But some people are content to put their heads in the sand, and who cares about anyone else in the county...


Right????

kaseydog 12-10-2017 02:02 PM

Agree 100%.

graciegirl 12-10-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 1487909)
It also means that people who do not live in The Villages, but live in Sumter County, have no say in what goes on in Sumter County .

We live in a "bubble" and all we see is what we are allowed to see. So if there is a need outside our bubble, it will not get addressed because.... well.... we live in a bubble and One Sumter.

But some people are content to put their heads in the sand, and who cares about anyone else in the county...


Right????

Well before the Morses arrived here Sumter was one of the three poorest counties in Florida with the comparable low employment.

It all depends on what a person WANTS from a county.

Like..changing the animal shelter.

Florida Poverty Rate by County

CFrance 12-10-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1487883)
Please let it be noted that the above is an opinion piece.

My opinion is that The Villages is run far better as a CDD than it would with input from all of the people who would like to run it who have never been involved in Civic Government. Then we would all be using the word "MESS" a lot.

CDD forever as far as I am concerned. I don't want the inmates running the asylum. We have seen how that works by just looking at other areas the same size run in the "ordinary" way.

I provided the link because it contains information explaining what One Sumter is. I don't really care what anyone's opinion is. I was providing an answer to a question.

manaboutown 12-10-2017 04:42 PM

This is an interesting article on the history of One Sumter, at least until August 2004. ONE SUMTER ONE HOT ISSUE - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL

Andrew Blechman, if I recall correctly, also addressed this issue in his book "Leisureville".

Sumter County was indeed not only a financially very poor county prior to The Villages being developed, it was sparsely populated and mostly rural.

I view the current population disbursement as somewhat akin to NYC and the rest of New York State. Would the whole of New York State like to be run solely by candidates dedicated primarily to benefitting NYC?

Of course one could argue NYC is not controlled by a single large real estate development business; perhaps Wall Street, though...anyway, it now is what it is.


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