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BRN_RI_FL 06-19-2018 11:16 AM

1st a potentially dangerous vent error now a potentially dangerous stove problem
 
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My wife noticed a burning smell with the stove a couple of weeks ago after which the stove no longer worked. The serviceman said the electrical connection was melted (see pic). He said that this is most likely caused by the electrical connection not being tightened enough at installation resulting in some electrical arcs or something eventually melting the wire. I guess I should consider myself lucky that neither the vent error (see other post) or this electrical connection error resulted in a fire. My home is a new courtyard villa. Boy they really slap these things together, don’t they?

ColdNoMore 06-19-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1554556)
My wife noticed a burning smell with the stove a couple of weeks ago after which the stove no longer worked. The serviceman said the electrical connection was melted (see pic). He said that this is most likely caused by the electrical connection not being tightened enough at installation resulting in some electrical arcs or something eventually melting the wire. I guess I should consider myself lucky that neither the vent error (see other post) or this electrical connection error resulted in a fire. My home is a new courtyard villa.

Boy they really slap these things together, don’t they?

Yowza! :22yikes:

Might not hurt to check and ensure...that your smoke detectors are working properly.

Hope your luck gets better...BEFORE the house burns down :(

graciegirl 06-19-2018 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1554556)
My wife noticed a burning smell with the stove a couple of weeks ago after which the stove no longer worked. The serviceman said the electrical connection was melted (see pic). He said that this is most likely caused by the electrical connection not being tightened enough at installation resulting in some electrical arcs or something eventually melting the wire. I guess I should consider myself lucky that neither the vent error (see other post) or this electrical connection error resulted in a fire. My home is a new courtyard villa. Boy they really slap these things together, don’t they?


You've been in your house a year now? Dryer vents clog in a year.

New Englander 06-19-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brucernelson (Post 1554556)
My wife noticed a burning smell with the stove a couple of weeks ago after which the stove no longer worked. The serviceman said the electrical connection was melted (see pic). He said that this is most likely caused by the electrical connection not being tightened enough at installation resulting in some electrical arcs or something eventually melting the wire. I guess I should consider myself lucky that neither the vent error (see other post) or this electrical connection error resulted in a fire. My home is a new courtyard villa. Boy they really slap these things together, don’t they?

First the dryer vent issue and now this electrical. I'm sorry your having such bad luck with your new home. Hopefully this will be the end of your problems.

BRN_RI_FL 06-19-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1554569)
No. People's dryer vents become clogged here no matter what kind of "lid" they have on them. I haven't ever heard of anyone having a melted connection to an appliance.

I’m thinking they clog a lot faster when they erroneously use a screen.

DangeloInspections 06-19-2018 03:20 PM

Wow Bruce.....that appears to be the stove end of the 240 volt electrical cord. Whoever installed the cord to your electric stove may not have tightened the screw enough.

Unless your stove was moved out perhaps by new floor installers or new countertop installers, this was most likely like this from the build. If the stove was moved out anytime after the build, whoever moved it may have pulled it out too far, causing this. In any event, those screws should have been tight. Thankfully this is a bizarre, rare issue. Glad this worked out ok for you....but it is indeed a scare!

Frank

Mortal1 06-19-2018 03:30 PM

My dryer vent...
 
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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1554569)
You've been in your house a year now? Dryer vents clog in a year.

is only 6" long. Easy to check. No clogs or debris in over 5 years...so it's a danger depending on your vent.

BRN_RI_FL 06-19-2018 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DangeloInspections (Post 1554663)
Wow Bruce.....that appears to be the stove end of the 240 volt electrical cord. Whoever installed the cord to your electric stove may not have tightened the screw enough.

Unless your stove was moved out perhaps by new floor installers or new countertop installers, this was most likely like this from the build. If the stove was moved out anytime after the build, whoever moved it may have pulled it out too far, causing this. In any event, those screws should have been tight. Thankfully this is a bizarre, rare issue. Glad this worked out ok for you....but it is indeed a scare!

Frank

It was from the build Frank. It hasn’t been moved.
Still waiting to hear from Sunkool and the roofer re the vent replacement. Still waiting to hear from someone re the numerous exterior paint touch-ups. Heard from the window guy last week who never showed up on our agreed upon date to fix. We’re finding that The Villages and the contractors were much more responsive to the initial 30 day warranty repairs than the yearly stuff. Not your fault. You and your sons did a great job. It’s the follow up work that’s been a little difficult. It would also be nice to hear from the builder, Mark O’Sada, since there were two potentially dangerous screw-ups on our house.

ajbrown 06-19-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1554569)
You've been in your house a year now? Dryer vents clog in a year.

Our experience at our house in TV. First clean out we did was after 10 years. We hired someone to do it (yeah I am lazy and helping the local economy :)) and when done I asked how they were. His response was they were fine but 10 years is pushing it for some... give me a call in 5 years; I said thank you. Folks mileage may vary...

Just saying...

CFrance 06-19-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1554569)
You've been in your house a year now? Dryer vents clog in a year.

Yeah, but stoves don't burn in a year.

Chatbrat 06-19-2018 05:58 PM

Any company is only as good as its worst employee--lots of times wires creep and have to be retightened, especially if they use aluminum wire--the wire should not have loosened when moving the stove--the strain relief should have prevented it

DangeloInspections 06-20-2018 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1554692)
Any company is only as good as its worst employee--lots of times wires creep and have to be retightened, especially if they use aluminum wire--the wire should not have loosened when moving the stove--the strain relief should have prevented it

You are right....but often one does not see the strain relief used....heck, I've seen the cord installed through the sheet metal with no protection at all. Luckily, once the stove is in place it typically does not move at all.

For anyone wondering, the stove is installed tight against the wall, so this cannot and is not checked. Any good Inspector checks for the Anti-tip clip of course, but this is an appliance issue....Easily once in a thousand or more stoves would have this problem. As you do not read about houses here in The Villages burning down from stove issues on a regular basis, I am guessing this was a once in a lifetime type of serious issue. Glad it ended safely.

Frank

Topspinmo 06-20-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1554664)
is only 6" long. Easy to check. No clogs or debris in over 5 years...so it's a danger depending on your vent.

If I remember correctly? his dryer vent vents up through the roof, so it would about 8 feet? PLus Installed screen wire blocking any debris passing through dryer lint strainer/catcher. So with the screen and lint catcher poor at catching lint it will IMO plug up quicker than 6" outside trap door vent. IMO the roof vent should have trap door and not screen to block what ever wants to crawl in?


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