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600th Photo Sq 10-14-2018 08:11 PM

Engage Pickleball " Balls "
 
Recently the Villages changed the Pickleballs to " Engage Pickleballs ".

They are terrible, cheap, soft, and have IMO changed Pickleball totally.

They are soft and a cheap replacement .

Bottom Line Buy Cheap...Buy Twice .

Get Rid of them . They are ... LOUSY...!!!

Buy Cheap.....Buy Twice ++


They really are terrible , very few players players like them...so why... ?

Who made the decision on switching..?

vintageogauge 10-14-2018 08:29 PM

Do you get to use them free?

Kenswing 10-14-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1590212)
Do you get to use them free?

Free? Isn't that what your amenity fees pay for? With the fees going up wouldn't you expect a better quality of equipment, not less?

Two Bills 10-15-2018 03:32 AM

If it makes the sound from the courts quieter, they get my vote! :duck:

graciegirl 10-15-2018 05:32 AM

They buy your own. Tennis players don't get free balls.

cost of pickleballs - Bing - Shopping

Arctic Fox 10-15-2018 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1590250)
"Tennis players don't get free balls"

That would make a good t-shirt :-)

graciegirl 10-15-2018 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1590251)
That would make a good t-shirt :-)

This is going to be fodder for punsters. We have some great ones.

AND......….No one expects The Villages to provide golf balls.

Balls said the Queen.

rde3036 10-15-2018 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1590250)
They buy your own. Tennis players don't get free balls.

cost of pickleballs - Bing - Shopping

You'e telling me that tennis players don't have balls!! That is harsh!

graciegirl 10-15-2018 05:43 AM

They have no pencil sharpeners in any of the art rooms but we art people are managing to soldier on.

ureout 10-15-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1590250)
They buy your own. Tennis players don't get free balls.

cost of pickleballs - Bing - Shopping

gracie, i think you miss the op's point.. TV has always offered free pickleballs as they do softballs, water volleyballs, and many other freebies for the various programs, I guess we are used to a certain level of quality especially from TV. As far as changing the balls to another brand I would like to know who gave input into the decision. We have a Pickleball club here that has a lot of input did they ok them?

Rickster52 10-15-2018 06:30 AM

Agree with OP
 
I'm a member of the pickleball community. I'm an avid player. There is a strong consensus among many that indeed the Engage ball represents a significant change in how the game is played. Many players that I play with do not like the Engage ball. The ball gets soft quickly, it becomes "dead" and is harder to put away. The Engage ball will be used in a tournament this week, and many of us are playing with it in order to get a feel for the ball.

I hope The Villages stays with the Dura ball until a better alternative is available. The Dura ball is more fragile in the winter, and perhaps that is part of what is driving the proposal to change the ball.

I appreciate the fact The Village continues to provide balls for the players. We all play with the same ball, which establishes a consistency for all. If players were forced to buy their own balls, that consistency would probably be lost. Moreover, the attitude of "make the players buy their own..." is perhaps expressed by those who don't play the game, or sports in general. Pickleball costs have been factored in the budget for years. Trying to get players to band together and buy the same ball would be difficult as personal biases do exist when it comes to equipment.

The ball matters in many sports, consistency is key.

twoplanekid 10-15-2018 07:41 AM

Although I only play for the fun of it and to stay in shape, the Engage ball is different than the Dura ball. Even at my level, the game play changes using one then the other ball. It’s my understanding that the Engage does cost less and is USA made which is a good thing. However, I am use to the Dura ball and it’s easy to note replacement time when it cracks.

It’s always easy to say if you don’t like it move, change sports, or buy your own. I don’t believe that’s the correct call in this situation.

Rickster52 10-15-2018 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1590250)
They buy your own. Tennis players don't get free balls.

cost of pickleballs - Bing - Shopping

Those prices don't represent what The Villages pays for pickleballs. Not when thousands are bought at a time, which The Villages does.

pauld315 10-15-2018 08:04 AM

Usually, TV pilot tests new balls and then decides whether or not to purchase them. I haven't played with these yet but, according to the Engage website, these balls are supposed to be quieter and built so they crack less than other balls. They also have been approved by the USAPA for tournament use.

I wonder if the major tournaments are moving to the Engage balls this year ? Also, since Engage is located right here near The Villages the rec department might have received a deal too good to pass up to use these balls as it would be great for marketing for Engage to say The Villages uses these balls.

graciegirl 10-15-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickster52 (Post 1590265)
I'm a member of the pickleball community. I'm an avid player. There is a strong consensus among many that indeed the Engage ball represents a significant change in how the game is played. Many players that I play with do not like the Engage ball. The ball gets soft quickly, it becomes "dead" and is harder to put away. The Engage ball will be used in a tournament this week, and many of us are playing with it in order to get a feel for the ball.

I hope The Villages stays with the Dura ball until a better alternative is available. The Dura ball is more fragile in the winter, and perhaps that is part of what is driving the proposal to change the ball.

I appreciate the fact The Village continues to provide balls for the players. We all play with the same ball, which establishes a consistency for all. If players were forced to buy their own balls, that consistency would probably be lost. Moreover, the attitude of "make the players buy their own..." is perhaps expressed by those who don't play the game, or sports in general. Pickleball costs have been factored in the budget for years. Trying to get players to band together and buy the same ball would be difficult as personal biases do exist when it comes to equipment.

The ball matters in many sports, consistency is key.

Thank you for the explanation. That certainly makes sense. Sorry for my incorrect conclusion.


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