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queasy27 11-12-2018 06:02 PM

Taxes on traditional IRA withdrawals
 
I've been researching this online using estimated tax calculators and made myself even more confused. Any advice appreciated!

With SS income of $20K a year and no other income, is it possible to calculate how much tax I'd owe on traditional IRA withdrawals of $5K and $10K a year?

Age 67 if that matters.

papasetti82 11-12-2018 06:16 PM

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/taxes.html

BK001 11-12-2018 06:25 PM

Here is an article that may prove helpful especially the link for the worksheet to calculate Social Security tax liability.

Is Social Security Taxable? (2018 Update) - SmartAsset

retiredguy123 11-12-2018 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1598531)
I've been researching this online using estimated tax calculators and made myself even more confused. Any advice appreciated!

With SS income of $20K a year and no other income, is it possible to calculate how much tax I'd owe on traditional IRA withdrawals of $5K and $10K a year?

Age 67 if that matters.

I would recommend you buy Turbotax Basic ($29.99 from Amazon or Staples). Then, you can plug in any combination of income options you want and also file your taxes at the same time.

gatorbill1 11-12-2018 06:49 PM

probably nothing after standard deduction

TomPerry 11-12-2018 07:16 PM

Based on $20,000 of SS income and $15,000 IRA income, wit no other income, you won't have a tax liability.

Bloom&Company 11-12-2018 07:48 PM

Give me a call, no charge, I will explain it to you. Bob Bloom CPA 425 941 5224 I am available off and on tomorrow, leave me your number if I do not answer when you call.

queasy27 11-12-2018 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TomPerry (Post 1598558)
Based on $20,000 of SS income and $15,000 IRA income, wit no other income, you won't have a tax liability.

Thanks. That seems to be the agreed outcome using all online tax estimators, but other sites say that half my SS would be taxable, for a taxable income of $25K and liability at the 10% level.

I prefer to believe the tax calculators!

I've used H&R Block online since it was introduced and will again this year, but I'm trying to figure out if it's better to withdraw $5K this year and $10K next, or just do the entire $15K next year.

Bloom&Company 11-12-2018 08:01 PM

Just give me a call. Continue using your software. I can just discuss it with you so you feel confident in your decision.

rjm1cc 11-12-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1598547)
I would recommend you buy Turbotax Basic ($29.99 from Amazon or Staples). Then, you can plug in any combination of income options you want and also file your taxes at the same time.

Go to the IRS site and look for a link to free software and us that to estimate your tax. If you are using last years software your tax will probably be too high.
The money you take from the IRA is taxed just as if it was wages so you can put it on the wage line if you can not figure out the correct retirement line which can be confusing due to ROTH's.

manaboutown 11-12-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1598621)
Go to the IRS site and look for a link to free software and us that to estimate your tax. If you are using last years software your tax will probably be too high.
The money you take from the IRA is taxed just as if it was wages so you can put it on the wage line if you can not figure out the correct retirement line which can be confusing due to ROTH's.

It is not taxed as wages (earned income) as there are no deductions for social security. It is simply taxed as income.

tophcfa 11-12-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1598547)
I would recommend you buy Turbotax Basic ($29.99 from Amazon or Staples). Then, you can plug in any combination of income options you want and also file your taxes at the same time.

Exactly what I would recommend.

Dan9871 11-13-2018 03:32 PM

+1 on talking to Bob Bloom. He's very helpful and knows all this tax stuff inside and out.

rjm1cc 11-13-2018 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1598650)
It is not taxed as wages (earned income) as there are no deductions for social security. It is simply taxed as income.

You are correct that their are not payroll taxes. But on the wage line for the 1040 you put the gross wages and the software will correctly compute the income tax. If you owe SS you would use form SE. My suggestion was just a quick easy way to get the answer he was looking for and not how to file an actual tax return.

blueash 11-14-2018 09:49 AM

I wonder if you are being confused because of the word "taxable". It does not mean there definitely will be taxes due, it means those dollars are not automatically tax free. So taxable means the dollars will be used to calculate your tax due, which could still be zero.


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