Obama slams 'misguided' Ariz. immigration bill
 

It just keep getting better and better with this clown. States are being overrun with illegal’s and when they finally start passing laws to do something about it, Obama opposes it.

It may violate their civil rights he says? Last time I checked they are law breakers not to mention the crime and drain on state government budgets.

They need to be arrested and deported when they are found and that’s what AZ is trying to do. Obama wants amnesty for all of them so he can get new customers for the government aka new voters on the government take. Or dare I say more people to be ruled and taken care of by our new socialist government.

Bill is signed
 

by the Arizona governor.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/nat...osition=recent

"They are lawbreakers" - yeah, the illegal aliens are.

I, on the other hand, am not.

I was born in Providence, Rhode Island. However, due to the fact that I was illegally adopted and my name changed without paperwork, I could not produce proof of citizenship. No paper-trail would lead to a birth certificate.

It took me TWENTY YEARS to fix this problem - and it was only because of some interesting notes my adoptive mother put into my social security records when I she applied for my card back in the mid 1970s that I was able to finally get enough paperwork together to have my name 'legally' changed to what I've been going by for more than 40 years. After THAT court procedure, I went and 'fixed' my driver's license (since my adoptive mother changed my birthdate as well) and finally had everything I needed for a passport (my personal 'holy grail' of ID).

Having said that, I certainly agree with the aim of this bill. The interesting part is going to be how a cop determines "reasonably suspicion" that someone is an illegal alien. If they just start rounding up 'brown people', there'll be hell to pay.

This does sound like we're getting closer to having to hear "Your papers, please.." from people in uniform.

I wonder how they'll detect illegal Canadians? (Targeting just Mexicans could be a violation of the Equal-protection-under-the-law part of the Constitution)

I hear what you're saying but I spent the better part of my life 30 miles from the border in San Diego.

Call it profiling or whatever you want but that's just the way it is. Do we really need to search 90 year old grandmothers from Iowa just to be fair to terrorists of a certain origin?

I lived on the "expensive side" of San Diego and you better not leave anything unlocked or unattended or it will disappear and cross the border faster than you can blink. Ask me how I know... numerous times.

Do others commit crimes? Of course they do but if you live close the the border in AZ, CA, TX you pretty much know where to look most of the time.

Crime is out of control and getting worse. Whole sections of the city are basically trashed. It's costing cities and states billions. It's the Federal Government's job to protect our borders. Can you say yet another EPIC FAIL?

Our boarders need to be locked down tight and the illegals rounded up and deported. Yes, show your papers. I'll gladly show mine.

This is a democracy founded on the rights of the individual. Such a society does not solve the kinds of problems you refer to having occurred on the "expensive side" (read: "privileged"), of San Diego, or anywhere else, by ramping up law enforcement to the level of a police state. It's no different than establishing a military which eventually usurps greater power than the people it is supposed to protect. History has recorded how governments of people always perish with the rise of governments of force. (read: Nazi Germany).

I appreciate your frustration with the fact that there is a real problem with illegal immigration, but you are advocating the serious harassment and total disrespect for the rights of Hispanic citizens who will be swept up in the search for illegals.

And if the whole idea isn't unconstitutional enough, how will the Arizona law facilitate anything but racial profiling? If the Arizona police decide it's too hard to determine who might be an illegal Canadian, perhaps they will have to search out a bunch of blonde Scandinavians to balance out the number of Hispanics in custody.

It's also a democracy founded on the rule of law. They are law breakers, illegals. They must be caught and sent back. How do you propose to find them? Hold a little block party and ask them to return home? They are law breakers.

Racial profiling is a joke and nothing but liberal political correctness BS. I'll say it again, do we really need to search 90 year old grandmothers from Iowa just to be fair to terrorists of a certain origin?

How about the harassment and total disrespect for the rights of American citizens?

Go spend 48 years living close the boarder and then come talk to me.

It's as silly an argument as saying you are profiling when you use a sobriety check point. Some of the drivers are allowed to go after showing their license, registration etc. and no obvious signs of being impaired. Others, who show signs of driving in an illegal manner, are asked to perform other tests. If they fail the test they are arrested.


Now why is someone who is showing no outward sign of impairment asked to stop in the first place? What if I forgot my driver's license or some other scenerio you can imagine like djplong's story. Doesn't it give the police an opportunity to harrase minorities? Isn't it a slippery slope? I say...pardon my language....BS It isn't a perfect world. But if you aren't breaking the law, you have anything to worry about.

Prince William County, Va. where I lived for two years did something very similar and every group in the country protested.

Here's a little story. Last year I got pulled over in downtown Nashville for driving about a half a block with no lights. The cop asked if I had been drinking. I said no (Just a side note, I don't drink alcohol). He asked for my "paperwork" and then took me to the back of my car and made me take a sobriety test. I passed of course and he sent me on my way. I do believe my civil liberties were violated. He said when you forget to turn your lights on, most of the time it's because you are drunk. Wow, I may have been profiled.

The difference between me and some others with differing opinions, I'm glad they were out looking for drunk drivers. Maybe save a life or something silly like that. I thanked to the officer for being out there protecting the rest of us from drink drivers. Gave him my paperwork, took the little test and went on about my business.

The United States is under attack from illegals. We must secure our borders and deport people of all shades if they are here illegally. What is so hard to understand about that?

Stephen Kruiser says it better then I could:

http://stephenkruiser.com/2010/04/23/arizona-mans-up/

I think he nailed it when he said people who don't live along the border don't have a clue what they are taking about. Live it for awhile then let's hear what you think.

jusluvit, since you're in disagreement with enforcing the laws, what's your solution to the severe problems the border states have to deal with due to the failure of the federal government to enforce our laws and our borders??

Read the whole thing here:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/


Every time Bush talked about immigration his ratings went down. Liberals said it was the war that brought his ratings down.

70% Favor the Bill
 

Arizona poll:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...al_immigration

Ridiculous!
 

Our procedures for admitting people to citizenship are a wonderful thing.

My neighbor, a Brit who married an American woman, has had to put up with the inconveniences and expense of the U.S. Immigration & Naturalization Department for many years. Please note that this man has no criminal record, owns two houses in the U.S., pays U.S. taxes as required, the whole five yards.

Thus far he has been living in the U.S. with a visitors visa. On a couple of occasions, the Immigration Department told him he would have to return to England because they had not processed a renewal of his visa in the time they said they needed to do so. I don't remember the cost of the visa and renewals, but I do recall thinking it was extraordinarily expensive when he told me. One one occasion, he was not able to return to the U.K. for his mother's funeral because his visa was still being processed and he was afraid that if he left the U.S., he would not be permitted to return to his wife because of the expiration of his visitor's visa.

Yesterday he told me he is applying for U.S. citizenship. Out of curiosity, I asked the process and the cost. The process takes several months and will require he and his wife to drive from The Villages to downtown Orlando 3-4 times for various interviews, the citizenship test, etc. He said the cost of becoming a U.S. citizen will be $1,800!

If I ever had any question why immigrants stay illegal...and why there probably is a crying need for some sort of amnesty program to encourage them to become citizens...it's been the experience of my neighbor.

Ridiculous!