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kaseydog 06-18-2019 09:23 AM

voyage driverless suv/van
 
Does anyone have any current information on the status of the Voyage driverless suv/van?

JoelJohnson 06-18-2019 01:39 PM

I went to meeting a few weeks ago at Eisenhower where the CEO of Voyage talked about the status of the project.

(Voyage Self Driving Car-a.pdf - Google Drive)

While they are making progress, they still have a ways to go, for example he talked about how the car was going down one of the roads and got confused by a shadow of a palm tree in the roads.

I think most people feel that they would never get into one of those things until they are 100% safe. Well, my answer to that is they get into cars with drivers that look at their phones, play with the radio, talk to people in the back of the car (looking back as they do). None of that is "safe". Over 39,000 people die in car crashes each year. IF the Voyage could reduce that by a third (or more), then we would save a lot of lives. There are a lot of stupid drivers out there, we can't fix them, but if the car does something the programers didn't expect, then they can correct the code.

kaseydog 06-19-2019 07:33 AM

thank you joel johnson for your informative reply. don't like driving in the villages anymore & am looking for alternatives. i will be checking voyage website to see how they are progressing.

JGVillages 06-19-2019 11:59 AM

One was seen going around a Round-a-bout for days since it couldn’t figure out how to exit 😉😉😉😉

rde3036 06-19-2019 01:29 PM

It will be many many years before self driving cars become widespread and safe. The problems associated with a self driving are several order of magnitude higher than developing auto pilots for airplanes which people like to use for comparison.

In addition to the software not responding correctly to environmental factors such as road design, lighting conditions, snow, rain, wind blown debris and erratic village drivers, there is also the problem of hacking that must be solved before self driving cars are common place.

The computer revolution is approximately, 60 years old now and industry still cannot prevent hackers from attacking critical infrastructure 100% of the time. I, for one, do not want to die at the hands of a pimply-faced teenage nerd!

mgb10155 06-19-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1658851)
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Couldn't figure out whether to use a turn signal or not....

EdFNJ 06-19-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1658851)
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Bay Kid 06-20-2019 06:24 AM

Does it stop for police cars? Who pays the tickets? Does it blow the horn if it doesn't like another driver? So many questions....

fl boomer 06-20-2019 06:47 AM

Back in February when they were first testing it here in TV, I passed it on the Morse Road Bridge. Appeared to only go the posted speed limit, and took the round-a-bout slowly. Saw it again on Rolling Acres a couple of weeks later, with a driver behind the wheel.

JoelJohnson 06-20-2019 08:02 AM

According to the CEO of Voyage, the car will not break any laws, so it should stop for the police.

RDE3036, these "pimply-faced teenage nerds" are really middle age men and women with years of experience, but I gress you would rather risk your life with some driver that has been drinking or on drugs and you don't know it. A few years ago an airline pilot was stopped from flying because someone though he had been drinking, he was drunk.

As far as "hacking" goes, I asked the CEO what operating system they used, he said Linux, while hacking a Linux system is not impossible, it is extremely rare.

Oh, by the way, the governor signed a bill that allows for self driving cars to not need a driver starting on July 1st.

charmed59 06-20-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rde3036 (Post 1658872)
The computer revolution is approximately, 60 years old now and industry still cannot prevent hackers from attacking critical infrastructure 100% of the time. I, for one, do not want to die at the hands of a pimply-faced teenage nerd!

Given the computer revolution is about 60 years old it should not surprise you that many of those pimply-faced nerds are now your neighbors.

And as one of those former teenaged nerds I hate to tell you but you have been putting your life in our hands for decades.

I am not so patiently waiting for Voyage to extend the service to my neighborhood. I’d be happy to use it.

Marathon Man 06-20-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1658990)
Does it stop for police cars? Who pays the tickets? Does it blow the horn if it doesn't like another driver? So many questions....

... and does it stop at an exit gate and signal golf carts to cross in front of it?

Northerner52 06-20-2019 04:36 PM

One of the biggest waste of money these days worldwide. Self driving cars that is.

rde3036 06-21-2019 08:39 PM

Hacking a Linux system is no harder than hacking any other operating system. The reason it is not done often is because hacker's write malware to attack the most common system which is currently Windows. Linux is used on a relatively small number of of computer systems. That will change if self driving cars or other products are equipped with Linux. The bigger the population of Linux systems the bigger the target for malware.

rde3036 06-21-2019 08:48 PM

So tell me what software you and your friends have written that results in my life being in your hands for decades? I'm interested in hearing about your background.


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