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ColdNoMore 06-23-2019 05:59 AM

U.S. Military and UFO's
 
Hypersonic Speeds. (poke here)

Quote:

Some US Navy pilots reported spotting UFOs while training over the East Coast in 2014 and 2015, they said in a recent New York Times report.

The pilots told the paper they saw “strange objects” with “no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes” reaching at least 30,000 feet and flying at hypersonic speeds almost daily while training off the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lt. Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years and who said he reported the sightings to the Pentagon and Congress.

“Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

The unidentified flying objects were seen performing maneuvers that were “beyond the physical limits of a human crew,” like stopping rapidly, turning instantly or immediately accelerating at hypersonic speeds, the pilots said.



Could it simply be super-secret military projects, where the 'skunk-works' portion of the military...doesn't tell other military branches?

Or is there really something to...a significant number of these sightings?

Giving more credence to these reports, compared to those coming from Joe Public, is that a lot of them are coming from military pilots...who are highly trained observers. :shrug:



The truth is out there.
:popcorn:

http://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1367619315_10.jpg

Bucco 06-23-2019 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1659601)
Hypersonic Speeds. (poke here)





Could it simply be super-secret military projects, where the 'skunk-works' portion of the military...doesn't tell other military branches?

Or is there really something to...a significant number of these sightings?

Giving more credence to these reports, compared to those coming from Joe Public, is that a lot of them are coming from military pilots...who are highly trained observers. :shrug:



The truth is out there.
:popcorn:

http://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1367619315_10.jpg

Brings back thoughts of "Area51" in Nevada.

We are not the only country with such a place and during the early sixties, such sightings were the subject of much talk, some of which has been explained (U2, etc.)

Taltarzac725 06-23-2019 07:59 AM

The Week. "Taking UFOs seriously. Why the Pentagon is urging pilots to report ...
 
...their close encounters."

This is the cover story for the June 14, 2019 issue of The Week.

New Englander 06-23-2019 08:03 AM

Area 51 is where the U.S. military tests new equipment that needs to be top secret until what ever it is, is brought into use. There are spy's out there.

Taltarzac725 06-23-2019 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1659629)
...their close encounters."

This is the cover story for the June 14, 2019 issue of The Week.

There are a few paragraphs to this cover story.

Mainly it covers the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). Does cover what Cold No More wrote about as OP and a 2004 incident off the USS Nimitz which was buzzed by high speed objects. Could be glitches in the radar system or very advanced drones according to the paragraphs.

Also mentions we should not be closed minded about aliens being out there.


I do not, frankly, see why they would want anything to do with us.

biker1 06-23-2019 08:21 AM

Aliens might be out there but the chances that they have visited us is essentially zero. The distances that would need to be traversed are extreme.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1659638)
There are a few paragraphs to this cover story.

Mainly it covers the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). Does cover what Cold No More wrote about as OP and a 2004 incident off the USS Nimitz which was buzzed by high speed objects. Could be glitches in the radar system or very advanced drones according to the paragraphs.

Also mentions we should not be closed minded about aliens being out there.


I do not, frankly, see why they would want anything to do with us.


Taltarzac725 06-23-2019 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1659641)
Aliens might be out there but the chances that they have visited us is essentially zero. The distances that would need to be traversed are extreme.

Some civilizations may have discovered much faster ways of travel as well as ways to use things Albert Einstein and/or others have written about with respect to wormholes in space. The Future of Space Travel: Fusion Engines, Warp Drives, and Wormholes - YouTube

What Is Wormhole Theory? | Space

biker1 06-23-2019 08:52 AM

Yes, that is why I used the term "essentially zero". However, I am pretty sure if a civilization was to develop sufficient technology to traverse the extreme distances they would not be showing up in "flying saucers". Occam's Razor is at work here.

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1659646)
Some civilizations may have discovered much faster ways of travel as well as ways to use things Albert Einstein and/or others have written about with respect to wormholes in space. The Future of Space Travel: Fusion Engines, Warp Drives, and Wormholes - YouTube

What Is Wormhole Theory? | Space


OrangeBlossomBaby 06-23-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1659641)
Aliens might be out there but the chances that they have visited us is essentially zero. The distances that would need to be traversed are extreme.

or, maybe they ARE us. Maybe "aliens" are the cause of the evolutionary mutations from Neanderthal to homo sapiens sapiens.

Taltarzac725 06-23-2019 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1659652)
or, maybe they ARE us. Maybe "aliens" are the cause of the evolutionary mutations from Neanderthal to homo sapiens sapiens.

I had thought that as well as have various screen writers and sci-fi authors.

But would push this further back to what caused any life to arrive on earth.

List of oldest stars - Wikipedia

Earth's Sun: Facts About the Sun's Age, Size and History | Space

Bucco 06-23-2019 09:19 AM

While I am open minded, I really discount aliens from other planets.

Look, if other countries can "hack" into various places within our country, we should not be so naive about abilities o surveil this country, and to not acknowledge that is really a weakness.

The UFO fervor in late fifties and early sixties, which "it appears" had lot to do with our country testing spy planes like the U2, allowed for the same kind of talk. We cannot believe that others in this world are not as smart or sophisticated as we...it just is not so.

The warnings we have gotten over the past few years about the capabilities of others seem to be falling on deaf ears, and it shouldn't. It is being done to us, and we simply mock those who tell us that.

Taltarzac725 06-23-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1659722)
Yeah, right. Total nonsense post. Please think before posting in the future. Do you have any clue as to the distance from us to the nearest possible locations for intelligent life? I personally don't believe in the plots of Hollywood movies. Apparently you do. I assume you were not trained as an engineer or scientist. LOL.

Lots of scientists believe in alien life like Stephen Hawking. Stephen Hawking's Most Intriguing Quotes on Aliens, Women and the Future of Humanity

We're 'Well On Our Way' to Discovering Alien Life, NASA Chief Says | Space

Topspinmo 06-23-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1659722)
Yeah, right. Total nonsense post. Please think before posting in the future. Do you have any clue as to the distance from us to the nearest possible locations for intelligent life? I personally don't believe in the plots of Hollywood movies. Apparently you do. I assume you were not trained as an engineer or scientist. LOL.

Pretty naive to think humans are the only special species in the universe, which we know virtually .9% of the universe. Just cause you read books, studied and pass test don’t make the authority on stuff we know little about. These incidents has nothing to do with Hollywood movies.

Probably the biggest cover up was Roswell incident. It don’t take months to clean up weather balloon That came down.

ColdNoMore 06-23-2019 03:53 PM

We humans, seem to have an infinite capacity...for arrogance/ignorance.

Those really are about the only reasons that can explain, the idea/conviction that we are the only intelligent beings in the entire universe...or that there aren't ways to travel faster than the speed of light.

Those reasons, and of course...religion(s) also.



:shrug:

manaboutown 06-23-2019 04:19 PM

Although intelligent life is likely rare in the universe it is surely out there. As the earth’s sun is recent compared to many stars other civilizations may have had many millions of years to evolve ahead of us.

Two of the smartest men I know have privately told they were certain they had observed ufos. One had seen a lone one moving about his airplane then flying off. The other saw a group at a distance. The LEO who checked out the Roswell area landing spot observed physical affects to the environment.

For those so inclined it is not too late to get to Roswell’s annual UFO festival. For those not into UFOs while I was growing up in NM the prettiest young ladies in HS and college came from Roswell. No joke. Must be something in the water down there. 2019 UFO Festival – Official UFO Festival Roswell Website


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