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aletarw 09-13-2019 07:47 AM

Anyone have experience installing gas in house
 
Just bought a house that does not have gas. I do not like cooking on electric stoves. So, I want to see if I can have gas installed.

I was told that I can get gas company to install a tank, but have not gotten through to them yet.

Anyone have experience installing gas in house? House is in Hacienda South in Sumter County.

hvacgolfer 09-13-2019 07:57 AM

Be very mindful of all that is going on when you install LP or "bottled gas" in your home. To start with the tank has to be buried. When the line is run from the tank to the house that line should be pressure tested. One of the properties of bottled gas is that it is heavier than air and should it escape in close spaces it will collect at floor level. You want to make sure with a pressure test that the line is leak free. When you get your new gas appliance make sure the regulator (on the appliance) is designed for bottled gas (as compared to natural gas). And, using bottled gas in cooking... it generally creates a hotter flame as compared to natural gas. Very easy to unintentionly burn food.

shaboobie 09-13-2019 08:43 AM

We installed a 250 gal propane tank last year. The company got all the permits and buried the tank, and hooked it up to the new stove top. We bought the stove top on line. We also hooked up our summer kitchen grill. All this was done in a day and a half. The total cost for everything including the propane was $3500 plus the stove top of $1000. (If you have a combo stove and oven that will cost you about $600 vs $1000 for the stove top alone.

vintageogauge 09-13-2019 09:03 AM

I'm with you on gas cooking but maybe research the newest in electric cooking that is more easily controlled and save the cost of putting in a tank, etc.

villagetinker 09-13-2019 09:10 AM

OP, ask questions about the routing of the gas line(s) if your kitchen does not have an outside wall, the installers typically run the line(s) in the attic. There were reports a few years ago about fires due to problems with the flexible gas lines in the attic, so be sure the newest materials are used and installed per code. I would have an independent inspector double check.

I will propose an alternative, you might want to look into induction cooking. You need special cookware, but it is supposed to closely mimic gas cooking.

Chatbrat 09-13-2019 10:27 AM

Gas vs electric--gas is great for stove top cooking--electric is great for oven use--notice if you manage to view all the cooking shows on cable, when was the last time you saw a chef using electric?

V&VofWV 09-13-2019 10:51 AM

No gas
 
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.

retiredguy123 09-13-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by V&VofWV (Post 1680958)
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.

They sell a lot of aluminum cookware with a flat steel bottom that is compatible with an induction range.

vintageogauge 09-13-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1680991)
They sell a lot of aluminum cookware with a flat steel bottom that is compatible with an induction range.

They have to be magnetic to work properly.

V&VofWV 09-13-2019 02:15 PM

Pots and pans are not magnetic. They must have a ferrous core or ferrous plate attached to the bottom of the item to work. Magnets will be attracted to ferrous metal, but the pan or pot its self is not magnetic!!

bluedivergirl 09-14-2019 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V&VofWV (Post 1680958)
We don't like electric ranges either. Bought an Electrolux induction range. As Villagetinker says, you do have to use cookware that has a steel core. Aluminum cookware will not work. Despite the cost of the range which was fairly expensive,, and new cookware, it is still much cheaper than installing propane. Operating characteristics much like a gas range. We are extremely pleased with it.

I also purchased an Induction range ~ mine is a Samsung. Two years in, works like charm.

Another plus ~ Induction heats the pan, not the air. A good thing in Florida!

I have cooked with natural gas and propane. The Induction is very similar and my range is intuitive. Zero learning curve.

ETA: My range cost @ $3,000.00, with no additional wiring or changes to the kitchen.

retiredguy123 09-14-2019 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V&VofWV (Post 1681019)
Pots and pans are not magnetic. They must have a ferrous core or ferrous plate attached to the bottom of the item to work. Magnets will be attracted to ferrous metal, but the pan or pot its self is not magnetic!!

I just know that, if you like aluminum cookware, they sell it with a steel flat bottom and the manufacturer claims that it is compatible with induction ranges.

xkeowner 09-14-2019 01:19 PM

Back to the Original Question
 
We have had a propane in ground (PIG) for eight plus years for our stove, outdoor grill and smoker. Also, did the same process at our home in Virginia. Don't remember the installation cost here but Suburban took care of everything and we are on a budget bill of $25 per month.

A previous poster was correct that most stoves come configured for natural gas but most also either have the parts required for conversion included or available for purchase at a reasonable. We are on our second stove because we recently upgraded to SS but I converted and installed both stoves which is a rather simple process.

While this may not be all inclusive it is usually only three steps. 1. Convert the pressure regulator which usually involves re3moving a screw-on cap, turning a spacer over and replacing the cap. 2. Replacing the screw in jets on each burner and the oven with the propane jets. 3. Connect to the supply line and check for leaks using soapy water. Burners may require some adjustment for flame height but that also is a simple process.

Full disclosure, I am not a certified plumber but have worked for a natural gas company and converted appliance the other direction from propane to natural gas in that job.

aletarw 09-18-2019 11:16 AM

Gas company will not install UNLESS there is already gas in the area. If you can get through to TECO via its phone tree, they will refer you to a propane company.

justjim 09-18-2019 11:48 AM

We didn’t like electric range at first but got use to it now and like it just fine. Would not change for any price.


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