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Villageswimmer 03-24-2020 05:48 PM

14 day self-isolation for those who have been in NYC
 
How can anyone maintain social distancing on a plane?
Or self isolation?

This gets more absurd by the minute.

NotGolfer 03-24-2020 06:03 PM

Good question and where would they isolate when they arrived? I think I'd stay put.

vintageogauge 03-24-2020 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1732961)
Good question and where would they isolate when they arrived? I think I'd stay put.

They are already here, plane loads of New Yorkers coming down every day, they showed the flight numbers arriving in Orlando last evening on the news. These people should not have been allowed on planes period until this is over, they left mandatory isolation to get here do they really think they will voluntarily isolate themselves, I think not. Now the Governor wants Floridians over 65 to self isolate for 14 days, this is really getting out of hand.

TexaninVA 03-24-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1732952)
How can anyone maintain social distancing on a plane?
Or self isolation?

This gets more absurd by the minute.

Well, you can't do it on a plane obviously although a lot of them are flying 1/2 full so maybe somewhat.

The issue is this: lots of NY refugees come to TV and the very first thing they'll do is go to Walmart, Publix, etc and stock up. It's almost inevitable they will spread it.

De Santis quarantining those arriving by air is a good move. But, to be effective, Cuomo or De Blasio would have to lock down the city.

Northwoods 03-24-2020 08:17 PM

Stop planes coming from the Northeast. New Yorkers are taking advantage of the cheap flights plus they want to escape the quarantine. SO.... stop the flights.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-24-2020 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1732990)
Well, you can't do it on a plane obviously although a lot of them are flying 1/2 full so maybe somewhat.

The issue is this: lots of NY refugees come to TV and the very first thing they'll do is go to Walmart, Publix, etc and stock up. It's almost inevitable they will spread it.

De Santis quarantining those arriving by air is a good move. But, to be effective, Cuomo or De Blasio would have to lock down the city.

Lots of them will fly to Atlanta and drive here, if they learn they are required to quarantine if they come directly from New York.

Thing is - there's nothing to DO in Florida, while Florida is in the middle of its own shut-down process. If they're coming south to escape the virus in the north, then they're just bringing the virus with them. We already have it here - we don't need more of it.

We need to shut down OUR airports.

We can't prevent people from driving over our state line - there's no way to physically do that. But we can drastically reduce the risk of infection by shutting the airports down, and ordering all hotels to cancel bookings from out-of-state visitors - and possibly even give them financial incentive to provide temporary quarantine housing for homeless Floridians.

Marvic 1 03-24-2020 09:22 PM

The Villages need to STOP issuing Visitors Pass until things get back to normal....
Especially those coming here from New York and staying with Grandma'.

EdFNJ 03-24-2020 09:30 PM

Unfortunately Florida Gov can't shut down airports just like he can't make Daylight Savings Time year round. Only the Feds can. Besides, you have to remember planes don't all come directly here then go back where they came from. Many flights travel across the country and go THROUGH here to go elsewhere. Closing the airport here would lead to a domino effect disaster for people going THROUGH here but not stopping.

EdFNJ 03-24-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1733020)
The Villages need to STOP issuing Visitors Pass until things get back to normal....
Especially those coming here from New York and staying with Grandma'.

Except you don't need a visitor's pass to come here, only to use the facilities which are closed anyway. This isn't Russia, you don't need a pass from Mr POOTIN to visit.

TexaninVA 03-24-2020 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1733012)
Lots of them will fly to Atlanta and drive here, if they learn they are required to quarantine if they come directly from New York.

Thing is - there's nothing to DO in Florida, while Florida is in the middle of its own shut-down process. If they're coming south to escape the virus in the north, then they're just bringing the virus with them. We already have it here - we don't need more of it.

We need to shut down OUR airports.

We can't prevent people from driving over our state line - there's no way to physically do that. But we can drastically reduce the risk of infection by shutting the airports down, and ordering all hotels to cancel bookings from out-of-state visitors - and possibly even give them financial incentive to provide temporary quarantine housing for homeless Floridians.

I hate to say this, but thinking about it more and seeing yours and some other replies, what really needs to happen is the declaration of martial law in and around NYC ... and physically prevent the refugees from spreading the virus further. That is, they HAVE to stay put.

I say that with regrets because I grew up in that area and feel sorry for them.

Edjkoz 03-24-2020 09:55 PM

Self quarantine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1732952)
How can anyone maintain social distancing on a plane?
Or self isolation?

This gets more absurd by the minute.

The idea is to self quarantine when you get here. Leaving a hot zone like NY and coming here is irresponsible.

Sensei 03-25-2020 04:41 AM

We can't prevent people from driving over our state line - there's no way to physically do that. BUILD THE WALL !!!

curioushomeowner 03-25-2020 05:23 AM

In my opinion they should not be flying anywhere if they can avoid it! Why possibly expose others to this virus if they are a carrier? Of course, you cannot practice social distancing in an airplane so that's why you should not be on one.

MOMOH 03-25-2020 05:26 AM

Aren't NY City and State already locked down? Before the lockdown flights were reduced to 20 per day. They've crept up to 190 per day. These people would have a better chance of avoiding the virus if they stayed home and stayed inside. We're only at the beginning here.

Alana33 03-25-2020 05:27 AM

I flew from St. Thomas VI last night.
Their governor instituted a 30 day closure of ALL hotel, villa, airbnb, vacation rentals in the VI.
Many businesses limit amount of people allowed in at a time. Majority of people following shelter in place.

Most people leaving STT wore gloves and masks. I watched planes come in while waiting to fly out with minimal passengers. There were 6 on one AA incoming flight. Maybe 40 passengers to Miami airport and business class had 3 people. Miami airport was basically empty. Flt. from Mia to Orlando had 30 passengers and its airport was same.
I took the Villages Airport Shuttle.
My dog and I were their only passengers. Very little traffic.
Since I travel with my 65lb dog, I can only fly on BOEING aircrafts.
Planned on returning on Wednesday but AA called me on Monday at 9:30 pm to advise that unless I took Tuesday flight, I wouldn't be able to travel with my dog as they were instituting a travel embargo on pets in cargo on Wednesday.
Was glad to make it back.

Both flights announced to passengers that if they weren't traveling with family, they were welcome to spread out in the empty seats.
Y'all be safe.

RobertWR 03-25-2020 05:40 AM

We have a home in TV and in Ohio. We left Florida on February 23rd, thought it would be for 3 weeks and we would return to TV. We are staying in Ohio because it is the responsible thing to do. We would rather be in Florida enjoying the nice weather but it can wait. We want to be healthy and alive so we can do that in the future.

lesser160@aol.com 03-25-2020 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1733005)
Stop planes coming from the Northeast. New Yorkers are taking advantage of the cheap flights plus they want to escape the quarantine. SO.... stop the flights.

Absolutely 👍

Chatbrat 03-25-2020 06:06 AM

How do you control a self- quarantine ? You can't--the only way is to quarantine ,NY, CT & NJ-till this event passes

GaryKoca 03-25-2020 06:15 AM

Apparently they are flying in without being tested, and without even being told to self isolate for 14 days. WESH 2 news interviewed people last night who said they flew in from New York, were not tested here, and were not even told about self isolating for 14 days. When we called the Orlando Airport and asked them what they are doing about this, they said "nothing." That makes no sense at all.

kenoc7 03-25-2020 06:30 AM

There are a lot of uninformed statements here. I'm in day 11 of 14 days of self-isolation after returning to Toronto from The Villages. There is no reason why people returning to The Villages from anywhere can't self-isolate - it isn't pleasant but it is possible as long as someone buys groceries for you. So if you are concerned, and you know a returnee, offer to buy groceries for them and leave them by the front door.

RoVer 03-25-2020 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1732952)
How can anyone maintain social distancing on a plane?
Or self isolation?

This gets more absurd by the minute.

Self-isolation means staying indoors and completely avoiding contact with other people. You do that by ordering your groceries delivered from Publix on-line. The delivery person leaves them at the garage door and after he/she is gone you retrieve the stuff with gloves and mask on and throw out the plastic before wiping down whatever you bought and taking it in. Use Clorox solution if possible. You don't keep your doctor's appointment, or any appointment. You stay inside the house and don't answer the door if somebody knocks. If your yard is fenced you let your dog out on its own. If you must walk your dog you do it at some odd hour in the night when you won't encounter others. If you don't do these things there is a high probability you will die, so it seems worth the effort. They've proven the virus can hang in the air. If you walk into a room 20 minutes after an infected person walked through it, you can breathe in the virus. If everybody stays home in The Villages we can defeat The Virus. I've been indoors going on 3 weeks now, getting lots accomplished. It's easy. Relax.

Sallie1740 03-25-2020 06:38 AM

One idiot on the news yesterday who came off a plane was interviewed. They asked her if she would self isolate. She replied that she only gets 2 weeks for vacation so she can't spend it all in isolation!

Jewelz 03-25-2020 06:41 AM

It is amazing that people can't follow simple rules.
STAY HOME PEOPLE!!!!

MoNonnon 03-25-2020 06:45 AM

All of the Rec Centers are now closed, so no visitors passes....

theruizs 03-25-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1733020)
The Villages need to STOP issuing Visitors Pass until things get back to normal....
Especially those coming here from New York and staying with Grandma'.

But they would still be here, going to the grocery store, etc. Besides, right now a pass doesn’t really get them anything anyway, everything that needs a pass is closed.

rlcooper70 03-25-2020 07:12 AM

If there is humor in any of this .... all of the "migration out" could have been stopped by any functional leadership .... its too late now. They are already here.

Chatbrat 03-25-2020 07:12 AM

Maybe they should be questioned , what is the purpose of this trip--my mother-in law, used to have a favorite expression from WW ll--"is this trip necessary ?"

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-25-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MoNonnon (Post 1733102)
All of the Rec Centers are now closed, so no visitors passes....

I was about to post the same thing until I realized that they are needed for golf. And that's about the only thing that there is to do around here now.

Dzurinko 03-25-2020 07:35 AM

Contact Governor
 
Best we can do is all contact DeSantis and ask him to stop this nonsense! How many of those NY’ers will be staying with mom in TV passing it to us? This must STOP or we’ll be another NYC!

BeauJangles 03-25-2020 07:43 AM

Guest passes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvic 1 (Post 1733020)
The Villages need to STOP issuing Visitors Pass until things get back to normal....
Especially those coming here from New York and staying with Grandma'.

Guest passes Are no longer being issued since the rec centers are shut down. Anyway, at this point, the only thing they would use a guest pass for is to play golf. At least that is the way I see it.

Lindsyburnsy 03-25-2020 07:57 AM

Yet, the rest of Florida still isn't on lockdown? None of it makes sense. Many of the mayors seem to be doing what's necessary in spite of not having specific orders.

daca55 03-25-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1733005)
Stop planes coming from the Northeast. New Yorkers are taking advantage of the cheap flights plus they want to escape the quarantine. SO.... stop the flights.

I agree! With 190 flights a day from NY not to mention flights from other airports with NY passengers it is out of control and not fair to Floridians. The answer is to shut everything down including golf courses and beaches so there is nothing to do here for a while. Both federal and some state officials seem more worried about the economy then people getting sick. If we continue doing what we are doing now FL will be the next NY.

davem4616 03-25-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1732952)
How can anyone maintain social distancing on a plane?
Or self isolation?

This gets more absurd by the minute.


Alaska is now requiring all traveling there to have self isolated for 14 days before coming...nice idea, the logistics on how to actually do this is unclear....perhaps you have to slowly drive through Canada?

It appears that the main point of all this is STAY WHERE YOU ARE....otherwise you become part of the problem

duh!!

davem4616 03-25-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWR (Post 1733056)
We have a home in TV and in Ohio. We left Florida on February 23rd, thought it would be for 3 weeks and we would return to TV. We are staying in Ohio because it is the responsible thing to do. We would rather be in Florida enjoying the nice weather but it can wait. We want to be healthy and alive so we can do that in the future.


thank you for being responsible and for thinking clearly

Chatbrat 03-25-2020 08:27 AM

It was ousted stated 60% of all the current cases in the country have been traced to people traveling from NY--DeSantis get on the stick & block all traffic from NY--air e everything--the way Ca. checks all produce entering their state--turn them back

GoodLife 03-25-2020 08:32 AM

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raney3099 03-25-2020 08:51 AM

Right now don’t need passes if the pools and rec centers are closed.

billethkid 03-25-2020 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1733197)
It was ousted stated 60% of all the current cases in the country have been traced to people traveling from NY--DeSantis get on the stick & block all traffic from NY--air e everything--the way Ca. checks all produce entering their state--turn them back

Not going to happen.
Just like not closing the beaches.
The political mindset will not allow addressing disruption of some folks norm...completely bypassing doing what is right/needed.

Barefoot 03-25-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1733012)
We need to shut down OUR airports.

I agree with shutting down all airports.
It should be done federally, not state by state.

PugMom 03-25-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sallie1740 (Post 1733096)
One idiot on the news yesterday who came off a plane was interviewed. They asked her if she would self isolate. She replied that she only gets 2 weeks for vacation so she can't spend it all in isolation!

i'm not worried, everything is shut down, there's literally NOTHING to do here. she will end up staying in & binging netflix


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