Rhode Island police stopping cars with New York plates
 

Kudos to the governor of Rhode Island. This is what needs to happen even though it’s not pleasant. But, it’s real world.

I say this a someone who was born in NYC and grew up in NJ. Sad.

“”Rhode Island police began stopping cars with New York plates Friday. On Saturday, the National Guard will help them conduct house-to-house searches to find people who traveled from New York and demand 14 days of self-quarantine.

“Right now we have a pinpointed risk,” Governor Gina Raimondo said. “That risk is called New York City.” “

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

We need to do something similar in Florida before it’s too late.

No we don't.

If you are worried about the Corona virus, then assume every person carries the virus and avoid being close to them. That's about it.

I'm already doing that ...

I think what the RI Governor has done is basic common sense in a pandemic and helps reduce the risk to all.

“While the Governor may have the power to suspend some state laws and regulations to address this medical emergency, she cannot suspend the Constitution,” Rhode Island ACLU executive director Steven Brown said in a statement. “Under the Fourth Amendment, having a New York state license plate simply does not, and cannot, constitute ‘probable cause’ to allow police to stop a car and interrogate the driver, no matter how laudable the goal of the stop may be.”

I agree. What's next.......door to door knocks, break-ins and searches? Sorry but this does not sit well with me and is a very slippery slope. Where does, will, it stop?

Steve

Hey it's a medical emergency. The normal rules (temporarily) don't apply. So far, she hasn't declared martial law but could if need be.

Does anyone really care what the ACLU thinks? Kudos for the governor of Rhode Island for keeping possibly infected people out of the state and trying to keep it clean. It should be the rule in all states right now. We are in a war of safety.

civil liberties don't mean a thing to a dead person--FL should have done the same thing weeks ago

Yes, indeed.

The ACLU can always be counted upon to be a pain in the (censored) at just the right time

I am considering taking lessons to rid myself of my NewYawk accent.

Brilliant :clap2:

That's actually quite funny. :bigbow:

My wife is from Mississippi ... for a small fee, we can offer you a short course in how to talk Southern.

In my best german accent, "Giff me your papersss pleeze".

Cute but then we’d all say “y’all”.

No we don’t? Look up hundreds of flights arriving daily. I sure their all going to stay home 14 days.

When does it stop? When you’re dead?

Ok, I’m being a bit facisius. But I do believe that one’s civil liberties end where it infringes on another person’s. Old people have a right to stay alive.

The OP just doesn't pass the smell test.. House to house searches would be a blatant violation of the 4th amendment. To those that applaud this move, you don't just shred the constitution because a virus is circulating, it is an EXTREMELY slippery slope. Besides, there is nothing about this on the 24/7 TV news nor the internet

Yes, she's from Mississippi but I'm from New Joisey :icon_wink:

And I’m New Yawk.

Actually I saw it on the news last night or this morning. I applaud her decision. She is trying to protect the citizens of her state. :BigApplause:

And if Trump tries to "protect" the citizens of the US by cancelling elections? Or a future president cancels freedom of the press? The constitution is not optional, to be ignored if inconvenient

If things are so horrifically bad by October, and to such an extent the elections have to be postponed, it's a pretty safe bet most people would be demanding that be done.

I don't think we'll get to that point however. :pray:

Florida is now the fourth most-hit state in the United States, after New York, New Jersey, and California, according to data by health officials and Johns Hopkins University.

Florida sees sharp spike in coronavirus infections as fears grow it could be another hotspot | Fox News

Do you not get this is a war? Keeping an infected person away from your state makes total sense. I hate all the New Yorkers that brought this crap to Florida so we’re now a potential hot spot. And yes, I’m a native New Yorker. Desantis should have done it too. Texas also closed their state to keep sickies from Louisiana out. And if election is postponed, so be it. How do you not get this ?

Yeah, I get it. And the concept that people would be willing to shred the constitution is more frightening than the virus

I vote by mail.

Under bona fide national emergencies, executive power tends to supersede judicial review. The doctrine of martial law pertains.

No one is going to refute this very wise action except the loony ACLU.

The 4th amendment guards against search and seizure in YOUR HOME. Really has nothing with an officer telling you to turn your ass around and go back where you belong.

This isn't about the ACLU. It's about Martial Law of which you seem to know nothing about. With Martial Law, there is no law and "they" will and can come into your house without your permission or court order. Read up on it. It has never been invoked in it's fullest, and I hope to God it never will. That will be the end of America and one hell of a bloodbath. Scary **** and a very slippery slope.

Constitutional Topic: Martial Law - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
Steve

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Where, prey tell, do you get Martial Law from an officer turning away cars with New York plates? Bit of a stretch there.

Me - I’m all in favor. This is a war with an invisible army that needs to be turned away. Too bad DeSantis didn’t act sooner and chase the spring breakers

Read back. This conversation turned to the discussion of Martial Law and the slippery slope. This is how it starts. Now everyone is ringing the "war bells". Now it's getting to be a "war" with the states all over again. Slippery slope!
Steve

And I pulled it back to the original subject. You’re being an alarmist over a governor’s smart move but enjoy your paranoia.

Texas has barred Louisiana plates. Arizona is considering barring California plates. Those that are still healthy don’t want to be overrun by those that are sick. Works for me.

"War" between the states all over again, not paranoia, it's happening.
Steve

Such is life.

Nice cavalier attitude. I rest my case.

Steve

OK, now for some perspective: My girlfriend's son lives in Rhode Island. They are NOT going door to door with armed national guardsman searching for New Yorkers. They are ringing doorbells and asking if there are any out of state visitors, and if so handing out INFORMATION on self-quarantine. This is a long way from the obvious violation of the 4th amendment suggested in the OP

Let’s build a wall around every state

When Moses was looking for somewhere to take the Israelites, God suggested he go to America.
Moses was horrified.
"Have you seen their Constitution?" he replied
"27 Ammendments, it's going to be nothing but trouble!"
"Oy Vey! We are having enough problems keeping these 10 bl**dy Commandments you dumped on us!"

According to the RI governor, they are explicitly looking for those who have been to NY door-to-door:

Source: CNN Rhode Island coronavirus: State is looking for New Yorkers to slow the spread of the virus - CNN