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jswirs 03-30-2020 08:48 AM

Is The Villages really a 55 and over community?
 
Howdy folks, I know that technically this is a 55 and older community, but I have heard there are many folks younger than 55 living here. Please don't misunderstand, I have no problem with this. I'm just wondering if the 55 rule is ever enforced? Could I invite someone 50 years of age to live with me here in The Villages? Could that be a problem? Thanks in advance to anyone who is courteous enough to reply with knowledge on this subject.

LiverpoolWalrus 03-30-2020 08:55 AM

In the areas of TV where it is enforced, each household needs to be occupied by at least one person age 55 or older. That is the requirement from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. From what I understand (others can confirm), the rule is not enforced for resales.

kansasr 03-30-2020 08:59 AM

Here's the actual answer
 
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.

The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.

The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

Joanne and Mike 03-30-2020 09:02 AM

In the State of Florida, 80% of the households in an Over 55 Community must have at least one person in the household over 55. Also, no one under the age of 19 can be a permanent resident.

jswirs 03-30-2020 09:26 AM

Thanks much!

Rapscallion St Croix 03-30-2020 09:38 AM

It is monitored. In order to remain an age-restricted community, TV must provide statistics to HUD every two years. If the 80/20 ratio is not maintained, TV will lose its age-restricted status. After that, lawn ornament complaints will have to take a back seat to basketball goals, swing sets, tricycles, and trampolines.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-30-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 1736676)
Federal Register 24 CFR Part 100; section 760.24-760.37 (4a), Florida Statutes

For a community to be considered "housing for older persons" as a 55+ community, the housing must be intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older and meet the following requirements:

At least 80% of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person 55 years of age or older.

The facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate its intent to in fact be a provider of housing for older persons.

The facility or community complies with rules established by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for verification of occupancy.

This subject comes up all the time and this is the answer.

Under the law it's possible, although highly unlikely, for 80% or more of the residents to be under the age of 55.

This applies to every 55+ community in the country. Get over it.

gadaboutgal 03-30-2020 09:45 AM

The minimum age restriction of no one under 19 is not part of state or Federal law. It is, however, permitted to be part of the individual community's bylaws i.e.,The Villages.

To understand why we have "over 55" communities, one needs to be aware of the Federal Fair Housing Law which prohibits anyone who sells or rents housing to refuse to do so because of race, sex, pregnancy, disability, nationality, religion, color or familial status.

To get around this law, the Federal government also enacted law
establishing "over 55" communities which permitted discrimination in certain situations. Thus the 80/20 rule.

asianthree 03-30-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1736670)
In the areas of TV where it is enforced, each household needs to be occupied by at least one person age 55 or older. That is the requirement from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. From what I understand (others can confirm), the rule is not enforced for resales.

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Originally Posted by Joanne and Mike (Post 1736681)
In the State of Florida, 80% of the households in an Over 55 Community must have at least one person in the household over 55. Also, no one under the age of 19 can be a permanent resident.

You you do not need to have a 55yo owner in every house

ureout 03-30-2020 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1736670)
In the areas of TV where it is enforced, each household needs to be occupied by at least one person age 55 or older. That is the requirement from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. From what I understand (others can confirm), the rule is not enforced for resales.

it wasn't true in 2002 when my wife and I both 50 yrs old moved here... and we actually bought the lot at 49 and waited a year to build

Topspinmo 03-30-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1736665)
Howdy folks, I know that technically this is a 55 and older community, but I have heard there are many folks younger than 55 living here. Please don't misunderstand, I have no problem with this. I'm just wondering if the 55 rule is ever enforced? Could I invite someone 50 years of age to live with me here in The Villages? Could that be a problem? Thanks in advance to anyone who is courteous enough to reply with knowledge on this subject.

Sure, it you’re want them to have full bubble benefits just put them on you’re deed. I guess there no limit to how many can be on deed :faint:. IMO it should be two. :ohdear:

LiverpoolWalrus 03-30-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1736723)
This subject comes up all the time and this is the answer.

Under the law it's possible, although highly unlikely, for 80% or more of the residents to be under the age of 55.

This applies to every 55+ community in the country. Get over it.

Oh Dr Winston O'Lennon, I mean Boogie...that's very true and it's useful to know that HUD allows 20% of the population to be under age 55 (I think you meant 20 where you said 80). And yes, we've gotten over it!

But the OP asked "Could I invite someone 50 years of age to live with me here in The Villages?" I don't see how knowing 20% of the population can be under 55 would answer his question unless he knew the current ratio in the Village, which he presumably doesn't and nobody has told him. I'm gonna go with an answer along the lines of "only one person per household has to be 55 or over” if the 20% maximum has been reached.

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asianthree 03-30-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1736935)
Sure, it you’re want them to have full bubble benefits just put them on you’re deed. I guess there no limit to how many can be on deed :faint:. IMO it should be two. :ohdear:

Actually it’s 4

manaboutown 03-30-2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswirs (Post 1736665)
Howdy folks, I know that technically this is a 55 and older community, but I have heard there are many folks younger than 55 living here. Please don't misunderstand, I have no problem with this. I'm just wondering if the 55 rule is ever enforced? Could I invite someone 50 years of age to live with me here in The Villages? Could that be a problem? Thanks in advance to anyone who is courteous enough to reply with knowledge on this subject.

Sure, as long as she is 19 or older you are good to go!

ajbrown 03-30-2020 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LiverpoolWalrus (Post 1736960)
Oh Dr Winston O'Lennon, I mean Boogie...that's very true and it's useful to know that HUD allows 20% of the population to be under age 55 (I think you meant 20 where you said 80). And yes, we've gotten over it!

He did not, but I do not wish or need to speak for him. He has given many examples in previous threads.


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