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Leadbone1 04-26-2020 09:00 AM

Reality Check on Covid 19
 
Deaths in Florida to date:1055
Florida population: 21.5 million

As a percentage, deaths from COVID-19 are .0005 %

As a percentage, those that have survived COVID-19 are 99.9995%

For comparison: in 2018, 3091 people died from the flu in Florida. Taken from CDC website.

So my question is, why is much of the Florida population walking around in a state of paranoia? In my lifetime this is the first media generated pandemic that I have ever witnessed? Not saying people should not be careful just as always with any disease or virus out there. But this current reaction is unwarranted!

graciegirl 04-26-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1753712)
Deaths in Florida to date:1055
Florida population: 21.5 million

As a percentage, deaths from COVID-19 are .0005 %

As a percentage, those that have survived COVID-19 are 99.9995%

For comparison: in 2018, 3091 people died from the flu in Florida. Taken from CDC website.

So my question is, why is much of the Florida population walking around in a state of paranoia? In my lifetime this is the first media generated pandemic that I have ever witnessed?

Most people do not think that this is a media generated pandemic.

Most people wonder why Florida is not dying the way New York State is dying.

Many people think that the population is generally older and perhaps wiser and more careful.

There are so many factors that need to be considered. I will be so glad when all facts are validated and all figures are run so we can have a clearer picture. For now we have speculation and incorrect conclusions on the part of many.

Do you mind, OP, telling if you are over 65?

biker1 04-26-2020 09:09 AM

0.005%.

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1753712)
deaths in florida to date:1055
florida population: 21.5 million

as a percentage, deaths from covid-19 are .0005 %

as a percentage, those that have survived covid-19 are 99.9995%

for comparison: In 2018, 3091 people died from the flu in florida. Taken from cdc website.

So my question is, why is much of the florida population walking around in a state of paranoia? In my lifetime this is the first media generated pandemic that i have ever witnessed?


Leadbone1 04-26-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1753722)
Most people do not think that this is a media generated pandemic.

Most people wonder why Florida is not dying the way New York State is dying.

Many people think that the population is generally older and perhaps wiser and more careful.

There are so many factors that need to be considered. I will be so glad when all facts are validated and all figures are run so we can have a clearer picture. For now we have speculation and incorrect conclusions on the part of many.

Do you mind, OP, telling if you are over 65?

I am 70

Bucco 04-26-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1753722)
Most people do not think that this is a media generated pandemic.

Most people wonder why Florida is not dying the way New York State is dying.

Many people think that the population is generally older and perhaps wiser and more careful.

There are so many factors that need to be considered. I will be so glad when all facts are validated and all figures are run so we can have a clearer picture. For now we have speculation and incorrect conclusions on the part of many.

Do you mind, OP, telling if you are over 65?

I do think there is much ignoring of facts, distorting them to fit whatever picture you want to paint.

From the birth of the virus ( haven't seen the scientific or medical community disagree) to what people say (video be damned), we are our own worst enemy. Looking to place blame is not responding to questions on the entire situation

All be safe, smart and keep looking for facts

Topspinmo 04-26-2020 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1753747)
I do think there is much ignoring of facts, distorting them to fit whatever picture you want to paint.

From the birth of the virus ( haven't seen the scientific or medical community disagree) to what people say (video be damned), we are our own worst enemy. Looking to place blame is not responding to questions on the entire situation

All be safe, smart and keep looking for facts

I blame China

Bucco 04-26-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1753776)
I blame China

There you go....makes it easy and simple for you.

graciegirl 04-26-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1753712)
Deaths in Florida to date:1055
Florida population: 21.5 million

As a percentage, deaths from COVID-19 are .0005 %

As a percentage, those that have survived COVID-19 are 99.9995%

For comparison: in 2018, 3091 people died from the flu in Florida. Taken from CDC website.

So my question is, why is much of the Florida population walking around in a state of paranoia? In my lifetime this is the first media generated pandemic that I have ever witnessed? Not saying people should not be careful just as always with any disease or virus out there. But this current reaction is unwarranted!

Here is the latest advice from a person who is widely thought of as a valid expert;

Dr. Deborah Birx Says Social Distancing Must Continue Through Summer Months

I see that the OP has removed the word "paranoia" from the original post. I agree with the change.

bumpygreens 04-26-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1753747)
I do think there is much ignoring of facts, distorting them to fit whatever picture you want to paint.

From the birth of the virus ( haven't seen the scientific or medical community disagree) to what people say (video be damned), we are our own worst enemy. Looking to place blame is not responding to questions on the entire situation

All be safe, smart and keep looking for facts

I'd like to know who is getting infected. We have been quarantined and socially distanced for six weeks. The incubation period of the virus supposedly is 2 to 14 days. Are all the new cases for the past three weeks essential workers and immediate family of persons who were already infected? The trajectory of new infections per day has leveled off, but we are still getting over 28,000 new infections per day in the US.

ficoguy 04-26-2020 10:24 AM

In the 3 counties where the Villages has a presence (Sumter, Lake, Marion) the population is 855,000. The normal daily death rate from all causes is 16 per 1,000. 8.2 out of 1,000 of those are due to auto accidents, so the non-auto death rate is 7.8. The current death total from CV19 is 26, which is 3.2 per 100,000. 70% of those who have died are over 70, and have co-morbidity factors - namely ( diabetes, obesity, heart disease, asthma ) which reduces the odds a normal person in generally good health will die. What we need to worry about is the immense overreach government has taken and is not going to slowly let go.

bumpygreens 04-26-2020 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ficoguy (Post 1753810)
In the 3 counties where the Villages has a presence (Sumter, Lake, Marion) the population is 855,000. The normal daily death rate from all causes is 16 per 1,000. 8.2 out of 1,000 of those are due to auto accidents, so the non-auto death rate is 7.8. The current death total from CV19 is 26, which is 3.2 per 100,000. 70% of those who have died are over 70, and have co-morbidity factors - namely ( diabetes, obesity, heart disease, asthma ) which reduces the odds a normal person in generally good health will die. What we need to worry about is the immense overreach government has taken and is not going to slowly let go.

Check your statistics. If the daily death rate is 16 per 1,000, we would all be dead in three months.

jacksonbrown 04-26-2020 10:33 AM

What concerns me more then the COVID epidemic is this:

Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death.

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.

From the CDC website

Yet, the restaurants that allow smoking at outside bars remain complicit in contributing to deaths from secondhand smoke exposure.

ficoguy 04-26-2020 10:33 AM

Per 100,000

bumpygreens 04-26-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1753816)
What concerns me more then the COVID epidemic is this:

Smoking is the leading cause of preventable death.

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.

From the CDC website

Yet, the restaurants that allow smoking at outside bars remain complicit in contributing to deaths from secondhand smoke exposure.

Maybe that's why we are locking ourselves away from this virus. It's taking away our right to die from preventable, self-inflicted causes. Endeavor to persevere, my friend.:pray:

Leadbone1 04-26-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1753798)
Here is the latest advice from a person who is widely thought of as a valid expert;

Dr. Deborah Birx Says Social Distancing Must Continue Through Summer Months

I see that the OP has removed the word "paranoia" from the original post. I agree with the change.

The word paranoia was not removed from the original post? Also I don’t solely rely on what Dr. Birx says or Dr. Fauci for that matter. They are single minded for the most part and in capable of applying or seeing the big picture


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