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coffeebean 05-15-2020 07:38 AM

Virus Transmission Through the Eyes
 
I would imagine by now, most everyone has seen Dr. Fair, epidemiologist and virologist on TV. He believes he contracted the coronovirus through his eyes on a crowded airline flight. Here is an article in case you haven't heard yet......

Virologist hospitalized with coronavirus believes he got it through his eyes

Dr. Fair had on a mask and gloves on this crowded airline flight. I have not heard if every single person on the flight, including the flight crew, were wearing masks. If in fact, every single person on the flight had on a mask and were wearing it properly, the possibility of droplets getting into Dr. Fair's eyes would be next to nothing. (Masks do block droplets from being spewed into the air from a person breathing, speaking, coughing or sneezing.)

I'm not an expert about transmission of viruses but I've been like a sponge reading lots about this virus and watching a lot of the experts discussing this on TV. I am confused as to why Dr. Fair thinks he may have contracted this new coronavirus in his eyes. Let me explain my thoughts..........It is a well known fact that wearing a mask DOES NOT protect the wearer. Wearing a mask protects the people around the wearer of the mask. Having said that, from what I understand about wearing a mask, Dr. Fair could have very easily contracted the virus from breathing it in through his mask. I will reiterate.....unless every single person on the plane were wearing a mask, contracting the virus through the mask was very possible.

I remain confused as to why a physician would think his wearing a mask protected him from breathing in the virus and come to the conclusion that he must have contracted the virus through his eyes. ????????????????

Anyone able to explain this to me? How about you.golfingeagles? Can you shed some light so I can understand this?

Much appreciation.

davem4616 05-15-2020 07:42 AM

nobody has all the answers...they're still trying to figure it out

La lamy 05-15-2020 07:57 AM

I can imagine it might be from the recycled air in the plane. I've read the virus can be in the air, and if you use the vents above your head in the plane, maybe the virus can reach down into the eyes.

Altavia 05-15-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1765362)
I would imagine by now, most everyone has seen Dr. Fair, epidemiologist and virologist on TV. He believes he contracted the coronovirus through his eyes on a crowded airline flight. Here is an article in case you haven't heard yet......

Virologist hospitalized with coronavirus believes he got it through his eyes

Dr. Fair had on a mask and gloves on this crowded airline flight. I have not heard if every single person on the flight, including the flight crew, were wearing masks. If in fact, every single person on the flight had on a mask and were wearing it properly, the possibility of droplets getting into Dr. Fair's eyes would be next to nothing. (Masks do block droplets from being spewed into the air from a person breathing, speaking, coughing or sneezing.)

I'm not an expert about transmission of viruses but I've been like a sponge reading lots about this virus and watching a lot of the experts discussing this on TV. I am confused as to why Dr. Fair thinks he may have contracted this new coronavirus in his eyes. Let me explain my thoughts..........It is a well known fact that wearing a mask DOES NOT protect the wearer. Wearing a mask protects the people around the wearer of the mask. Having said that, from what I understand about wearing a mask, Dr. Fair could have very easily contracted the virus from breathing it in through his mask. I will reiterate.....unless every single person on the plane were wearing a mask, contracting the virus through the mask was very possible.

I remain confused as to why a physician would think his wearing a mask protected him from breathing in the virus and come to the conclusion that he must have contracted the virus through his eyes. ????????????????

Anyone able to explain this to me? How about you.golfingeagles? Can you shed some light so I can understand this?

Much appreciation.

Very good question. Feels like there might be some I'm super smart and not my fault blame storming from him.

He also experienced a long exposure time.

Would be interesting to know how many other people on that plane caught COVID.

Should also be required to test everyone from any flight that induces the disease to help learn what works and doesn't

DeanFL 05-15-2020 08:35 AM

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Wouldn't you know it... and I bought a 10-pack of these masks for the Covid...

billethkid 05-15-2020 08:47 AM

Is wearing the mask with the nose exposed an acceptable compromise?
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anothersteve 05-15-2020 08:49 AM

With all the paranoia going around, pretty soon swim goggles will be required on all flights.
Steve

Lindsyburnsy 05-15-2020 08:59 AM

He was probably wearing one of those N95 respirator masks. Now you know why heathcare workers also wear those plastic shields over their eyes. Heck, my dentist has been wearing one of those shields for at least a couple of years. Wearing a mask is just one tool, just like gloves, gowns, washing hands, sanitizer, etc. We can only decrease our chances, not eliminate them, unless you and anybody else never left home and you didn't collect your mail, or have home delivery of groceries, packages, etc. Obviously, not going to happen.

zonerboy 05-15-2020 09:33 AM

Maybe he picked up the virus by touching something with his gloved hands, then touched his face near his eyes. Perhaps adjusting the fit of his mask.
If the virus is in the eye it can be washed thru the tear ducts into the nose and on into the throat.

davem4616 05-15-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1765421)
Wouldn't you know it... and I bought a 10-pack of these masks for the Covid...

I wonder how many people would be 'appalled' vs. laugh if you actually wore one of these into a Publix's or WD... :coolsmiley:

trekker954 05-15-2020 09:41 AM

Dr. Fair tested NEGATIVE FOUR times.
 
I just saw him on one of the morning shows. I'm not so sure I'm buying into his symptoms. They do not appear to be in sync with others and he's admited he's pushed and been tested four times, negative. He got to the hospital and insisted not to be incubated, although he wasn't even near that point. He was given oxygen and is feeling much better. Anxiety that you have the virus can bring on hyperventilation and breathing difficulties. And for him to get interviewed and such so quickly without testing positive. I'm a nay sayer here on this one. I'll apologize if I'm wrong.

But my husband who had a stomach ache the other day, came in an told me about Fair and his stomach ache. UGHHHHHH. I reminded my husband he is what he eats which has been awful during the pandemic. Thats why he had a stomach ache. He was fine the next day when I took away all his cashews and salty food.

Topspinmo 05-15-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1765362)
I would imagine by now, most everyone has seen Dr. Fair, epidemiologist and virologist on TV. He believes he contracted the coronovirus through his eyes on a crowded airline flight. Here is an article in case you haven't heard yet......

Virologist hospitalized with coronavirus believes he got it through his eyes

Dr. Fair had on a mask and gloves on this crowded airline flight. I have not heard if every single person on the flight, including the flight crew, were wearing masks. If in fact, every single person on the flight had on a mask and were wearing it properly, the possibility of droplets getting into Dr. Fair's eyes would be next to nothing. (Masks do block droplets from being spewed into the air from a person breathing, speaking, coughing or sneezing.)

I'm not an expert about transmission of viruses but I've been like a sponge reading lots about this virus and watching a lot of the experts discussing this on TV. I am confused as to why Dr. Fair thinks he may have contracted this new coronavirus in his eyes. Let me explain my thoughts..........It is a well known fact that wearing a mask DOES NOT protect the wearer. Wearing a mask protects the people around the wearer of the mask. Having said that, from what I understand about wearing a mask, Dr. Fair could have very easily contracted the virus from breathing it in through his mask. I will reiterate.....unless every single person on the plane were wearing a mask, contracting the virus through the mask was very possible.

I remain confused as to why a physician would think his wearing a mask protected him from breathing in the virus and come to the conclusion that he must have contracted the virus through his eyes. ????????????????

Anyone able to explain this to me? How about you.golfingeagles? Can you shed some light so I can understand this?

Much appreciation.

IMO The experts are guessing based on other similar outbreaks. If they knew maybe it could be controlled.

First they said wear mask, Then, all N95 masks were gone, then some said masks don’t help. Then, some said anything better than nothing? IMO it does help, is it 100%? Too many factors involved in individual cases.


Maybe he had N95 mask? There really no way knowing we’re he caught the virus. He could of caught before the flight and spread it beings he was working in volatile environment? I would not get on plane without n95 mask. IMO travelers on flights was the one 1 spread of the virus long before end of January. I suspect as early as late November it was lurking. IMO the world travels through LA, Atlanta, and NYC. We never had chance to stop it due china setting on it. IMO we for hit on both sides, China to west coast, NYC, Atlanta. China to Italy, rest of Europe, then Europe here.

coffeebean 05-15-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1765478)
Maybe he picked up the virus by touching something with his gloved hands, then touched his face near his eyes. Perhaps adjusting the fit of his mask.
If the virus is in the eye it can be washed thru the tear ducts into the nose and on into the throat.

Good possibility. I still don't know why he wore gloves. Gloves still harbor germs just like hands so why bother with gloves? Very possible....he may have touched his eye with his gloved hand. I have seen Dr. Fair interviewed while he was hospitalized and he did say that he can also make a mistake even though he very well knows what he is supposed to do to protect himself.

Number 10 GI 05-15-2020 03:50 PM

IF he even has the virus he could have contracted it way before the flight. It's not like you can back track and accurately determine when you contracted the virus. Me thinks it was his attempt for 15 minutes of fame.

WhiteToast 05-15-2020 04:01 PM

It's cool to wear a mask now. It's uncool not to. Today at Lake Deaton Publix, just one, a name-tagged Publix employee snickered and had comments about my mask and sunglasses. I forgot I had on the sunglasses, the rest of that cute jumpsuit and sexy Doctors mask was all me on any given day in the Publix from now on baby... Anyway, I appreciate everyone who wears a mask in public, for a while. I'll say only a few, mostly the lunch crowd, did not wear masks. Hopefully they will catch on.


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