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manaboutown 06-01-2020 03:14 PM

Baden's autopsy concludes Floyd's death was caused by asphyxia
 
By compression on the neck as the video shows.

George Floyd'''s family releases independent autopsy showing death caused by asphyxia from sustained pressure | Fox News

retiredguy123 06-01-2020 03:30 PM

To be fair, I just have one question. How can an autopsy paid for by Floyd's family be called an "independent" review?

Bogie Shooter 06-01-2020 03:36 PM

Because Baden is a Fox News contributor??

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-01-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1775256)
To be fair, I just have one question. How can an autopsy paid for by Floyd's family be called an "independent" review?

Because most of the free world understands what the word "independent" means. It doesn't mean "unbiased." It means "not connected to or affiliated with...[insert thing here]."

In the case of the autopsy, it is independent of the preliminary autopsy performed by the coroner's office.

manaboutown 06-01-2020 03:59 PM

He has quite a high profile history, JFK, MLK Jr. and more.

PATHOLOGIST IN SIMPSON TRIAL SAYS VICTIMS STRUGGLED LONG AND HARD - Chicago Tribune

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...stein-autopsy/

John41 06-01-2020 04:09 PM

How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.

golfing eagles 06-01-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1775249)

No surprise.

And to foreshadow a bit, it's my experience that any medical testimony offered at trial just confuses the jury and puts them to sleep anyway.

GoodLife 06-01-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1775282)
No surprise.

And to foreshadow a bit, it's my experience that any medical testimony offered at trial just confuses the jury and puts them to sleep anyway.

What is the difference between Baden's autopsy and the one done by the ME?

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-01-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1775279)
How quick are some politicians to throw police under the bus when politically expedient. Considering Mr. Floyd’s violent criminal past of armed robbery and drug dealing I am inclined to give police officers the benefit of the doubt unless shown otherwise after an investigation. The restraint technique of kneeling on a suspects is permitted by law if not excessive. More facts will emerge to reach a final and just judgement.

Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.

argos5usa 06-01-2020 07:22 PM

Like most paid litigation experts, Baden's report is drafted to fit the narrative of the side who is paying him...no credibility.

manaboutown 06-01-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1775360)
Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.

So Floyd was an ex-con. Aggravated robbery is a BIG DEAL FELONY! I did not know that and had actually heard that he was a "gentle giant" and so on. All I can say is WOW! That speaks loud and clear about his actual character!

B767drvr 06-01-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1775360)
Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.

I honestly don't know but am curious... what exactly is "aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon"?

It sure sounds like a robbery with a deadly weapon?

I have never committed a robbery, much less with a "deadly weapon".

Would you agree George is not a model citizen? Robbery with a deadly weapon? Hmm... not diminishing his death or the circumstances, which I agree is abhorrent, but nationwide destruction over this? George doesn't sound like Mother Theresa.

golfing eagles 06-01-2020 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1775360)
Twenty YEARS ago he was *arrested and charged* with possession. I see no mention that he was ever convicted of it. He did do 5 years for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. That happened over 10 years ago, and he only had to serve four years of his sentence.

Zero incidences since then. He has no "violent criminal past." He had a singular violent criminal incident in his life. Which isn't to excuse him, but it does seem to indicate that YOU are more interested in painting him as a lot worse than he was, for some nefarious reason.

Could you please rectify the two statements in bold? Or is it just the usual TOTV oxymoron?

Stu from NYC 06-01-2020 08:58 PM

Interesting that every time a black is "murdered by the police" he is a felon with criminal history.

How come they cannot find a model citizen with clean record to protest about?

ColdNoMore 06-01-2020 09:13 PM

And once again, the attempts to try and justify the death of an unarmed black man AFTER the fact...starts. :ohdear:


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