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jgrusmark 06-11-2020 10:54 AM

transporting puppy
 
I have purchased a new puppy and want to get it from Ithaca NY airport to Orlando. Any information like best airlines, contact info, paperwork needed, would be greatly appreciated. It's a Scottish Terrier and weighs only 7 lbs.

Madelaine Amee 06-11-2020 11:06 AM

Your breeder should be able to help you with this. I shipped a dog from the UK to Logan, Boston and everything was done by the breeder.

I do have a word of caution ............ the dog will go into the hold, the hold is NOT air conditioned and the dog wil have to be at the airport long before the flight actually leaves NY. You really do need someone to be with the dog until it leaves, especially in this heat. Your breeder should be aware of this too. If all else fails, I would fly back to NY and bring the dog on the plane with you in a carry on.

Good luck with everything. Our dog was the most incredible animal we had ever had, she lived to be 14 1/2 yrs old. She is gone some five years and we still miss her every day.

JSR22 06-11-2020 11:26 AM

You need to fly to NY and pickup the dog. The dog will fly with yo n the air conditioned cabin. You will need a sherpa bag for the dog to be contained. You need the vets shot records when you check in at the airport.
This time of year reputable airlines do not put dogs in cargo because of the heat.

CFrance 06-11-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1782094)
Your breeder should be able to help you with this. I shipped a dog from the UK to Logan, Boston and everything was done by the breeder.

I do have a word of caution ............ the dog will go into the hold, the hold is NOT air conditioned and the dog wil have to be at the airport long before the flight actually leaves NY. You really do need someone to be with the dog until it leaves, especially in this heat. Your breeder should be aware of this too. If all else fails, I would fly back to NY and bring the dog on the plane with you in a carry on.

Good luck with everything. Our dog was the most incredible animal we had ever had, she lived to be 14 1/2 yrs old. She is gone some five years and we still miss her every day.


I have to differ with you a bit, Madelaine. We have flown our golden retriever to Paris and to Germany and back several times. Each time the purser has come back to us with information that yes, he was in the hold, and what temperature would we like the hold to be set at.


Animals do not fly in un-airconditioned holds, at least not in the last ten years since we've been flying our guy. We have used Air France nonstop to Paris and Lufthansa nonstop to Germany.


The temperature problem comes from the crate having to sit on the tarmac during the loading procedure. The airline will not fly pets in cargo if the temperature is above 85 degrees, or below a certain temp which I forget as it's never applied to us.


For that reason, we will have to skip going to France this year even if Germany & France open their borders to Americans, because it will be too hot for him to fly.


Having said all that, for a 7-lb dog, I would fly to go get him. He can go into the cabin with you, and as a puppy not used to flying, that would be much easier on him. Our boy was two when we first put him on a plane. He was already crate trained and a seasoned auto traveler, and was over that hyper/nervous-to-new-situations puppyness.


Good luck, and enjoy your puppy!

Nucky 06-11-2020 03:30 PM

Lucky Dog! Both the Owner & The Pup!

Madelaine Amee 06-11-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1782215)
I have to differ with you a bit, Madelaine. We have flown our golden retriever to Paris and to Germany and back several times. Each time the purser has come back to us with information that yes, he was in the hold, and what temperature would we like the hold to be set at.


Animals do not fly in un-airconditioned holds, at least not in the last ten years since we've been flying our guy. We have used Air France nonstop to Paris and Lufthansa nonstop to Germany.


The temperature problem comes from the crate having to sit on the tarmac during the loading procedure. The airline will not fly pets in cargo if the temperature is above 85 degrees, or below a certain temp which I forget as it's never applied to us.


For that reason, we will have to skip going to France this year even if Germany & France open their borders to Americans, because it will be too hot for him to fly.


Having said all that, for a 7-lb dog, I would fly to go get him. He can go into the cabin with you, and as a puppy not used to flying, that would be much easier on him. Our boy was two when we first put him on a plane. He was already crate trained and a seasoned auto traveler, and was over that hyper/nervous-to-new-situations puppyness.


Good luck, and enjoy your puppy!

At the time we flew Sam over the dogs were still going into the hold, but in those days the RSPCA had an office at Heathrow where they took over the shipping of dogs, they made sure she had water and someone with her at all times. When we got to Logan someone had taken her out of the crate and walked her so that she could relieve herself! I will never forget collecting her from baggage and bringing her through customs on her leash, she sat like a perfect lady and just looked around.

thomp679 06-11-2020 04:36 PM

You will need to fly with the pup in the cabin. Due to the current COVID situation, a lot of the limited pet routes are not even flying. Working on getting a dog into the US right now. Domestic lines are not flying animals at all and the International lines have limited airports. I think five; JFK, Chicago, Dallas, Seattle, and one I can't remember.

I do know I have to go to either Chicago or Dallas for my situation.

The other possibility is to ground transport your new pup. Check out a site like Pet Relocation | Pet Moving Services | Animal Transport | Happy Tails Travel for information on how to do it.

CFrance 06-11-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1782265)
At the time we flew Sam over the dogs were still going into the hold, but in those days the RSPCA had an office at Heathrow where they took over the shipping of dogs, they made sure she had water and someone with her at all times. When we got to Logan someone had taken her out of the crate and walked her so that she could relieve herself! I will never forget collecting her from baggage and bringing her through customs on her leash, she sat like a perfect lady and just looked around.

He has always been in the hold, but it's a different hold--pressurized and temperature controlled. My fear was always that he would be forgotten during a change of planes, so the reason to fly to Germany is that it is nonstop. The flights to Paris now are not. They go through JFK, and we've missed flights and they've lost our luggage three times, due to Delta taking off late out of Orlando. Thankfully we never had Crosby with us on those flights.


We would rather fly nonstop into Frankfurt from Orlando and drive to SW France than chance a plane change with a pet.


As much as I looooooooove big dogs, I fear our next dog will have to be a ten-pounder that can fit under the seat in front of us in the cabin. Managing luggage for six months, dog, and 48 x 36" crate through two airports is mind boggling.


As it is, he is now too old to fly. Staying here with this sweetheart till the end.

CFrance 06-11-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1782270)
You will need to fly with the pup in the cabin. Due to the current COVID situation, a lot of the limited pet routes are not even flying. Working on getting a dog into the US right now. Domestic lines are not flying animals at all and the International lines have limited airports. I think five; JFK, Chicago, Dallas, Seattle, and one I can't remember.

I do know I have to go to either Chicago or Dallas for my situation.

The other possibility is to ground transport your new pup. Check out a site like Pet Relocation | Pet Moving Services | Animal Transport | Happy Tails Travel for information on how to do it.

That's a very good point. OP, I wonder if your breeder is up on the situation vis-a-vis flight transportation for pets.

valuemkt 06-11-2020 05:51 PM

unless the pup is small enough to accompany you in the passenger section you should drive. Worst time of year to transport an animal via an airplane hold, not to mention the trauma you;re subjecting a young puppy through ..

tophcfa 06-11-2020 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1782322)
unless the pup is small enough to accompany you in the passenger section you should drive. Worst time of year to transport an animal via an airplane hold, not to mention the trauma you;re subjecting a young puppy through ..

I couldn't agree more. Putting a small pup into the cargo compartment of a plane will tarnish the poor thing for life. Dogs have very long memories and are easily spooked. Either fly it in the passenger section of the plane or go pick it up and drive it to the Villages. And best of luck with your new four legged companion.

WhiteToast 06-12-2020 04:38 AM

Sorry but it’s irresponsible to ship a dog unattended in cargo hold. Really bad decision and poor pet parenting.

Pamelah 06-12-2020 04:47 AM

Absolutely yes. Fly to Ithaca, bring puppy back same day in a crate. Why take a chance?

Marykess1802 06-12-2020 04:49 AM

I couldn’t agree more. Fly to pupper. Bring it home with you.

Alicat5977 06-12-2020 05:03 AM

Also check with the airlines, most don’t allow animals to fly in the summer months because of the extreme heat in the cargo area.


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